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What was your first programming language?
Aug 2, 2008 at 5:31am
I thought it would be interesting to explore how everyone got into programming. Obviously, we are here because we enjoy c++, but i'm sure for most of you it isn't the only language you know. Was it the first?
I should also expand on what I mean by programming language. I'm not limiting it to just programming languages. In this case, I am also gonig to include anything that taught you the basics of programming, including scripting languages such as Javascript, TCL/TK, or something specific to some off the wall program.
For me, I dabbled a bit with Visual Basic a long time ago, but the first scripting language that really got me introduced was one built into mIRC which is an IRC client. Rather powerfull for what it was, but very different from normal programming languages.
I've messed with javascript, of course, and tcl/tk, along with perl, php, html, and css. But here's one that is interesting. Anyone ever play the old text mucks? Ever work with Muf? ('muck forth' i think it's short for) That's a language that works with a stack. It really forces you to write clean code and to think heavily about what you're doing.
Oh yea. and if you really want to see a wierd scripting language.. check out the Dragonspeak or Dspeak language used for the game Furcadia. I've been tempted to try to create a scripting language that is similar in style. It woudln't be too difficult to implement.
I should also expand on what I mean by programming language. I'm not limiting it to just programming languages. In this case, I am also gonig to include anything that taught you the basics of programming, including scripting languages such as Javascript, TCL/TK, or something specific to some off the wall program.
For me, I dabbled a bit with Visual Basic a long time ago, but the first scripting language that really got me introduced was one built into mIRC which is an IRC client. Rather powerfull for what it was, but very different from normal programming languages.
I've messed with javascript, of course, and tcl/tk, along with perl, php, html, and css. But here's one that is interesting. Anyone ever play the old text mucks? Ever work with Muf? ('muck forth' i think it's short for) That's a language that works with a stack. It really forces you to write clean code and to think heavily about what you're doing.
Oh yea. and if you really want to see a wierd scripting language.. check out the Dragonspeak or Dspeak language used for the game Furcadia. I've been tempted to try to create a scripting language that is similar in style. It woudln't be too difficult to implement.
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Aug 2, 2008 at 5:26pm
This.
2 months ago.
Some family members of mine know other stuff, like FORTRAN or BASIC, but not C/C++.
I've dabbled into HTML, but that was a few years ago. Besides, it doesn't count.
2 months ago.
Some family members of mine know other stuff, like FORTRAN or BASIC, but not C/C++.
I've dabbled into HTML, but that was a few years ago. Besides, it doesn't count.
Aug 2, 2008 at 10:03pm
wow, you started off with Assembly? I've downloaded an ebook on assembly. re-read the first paragraph 10 times, then deleted the book cause I could NOT make any sense out of it. WOW..
Aug 3, 2008 at 2:58am
BASIC
This question has been asked already:
http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/lounge/1953/
I've also played with
VB, VBScript, C, C++, Pascal, Delphi, x86 Assembly, MIPS Assembly, Java, Forth, Haskell, Scheme, Tcl/Tk, Python, hmm... what else... shell languages (bash, c-shell, DOS BAT, etc.), custom languages, awk, make, umm... FORTRAN, JavaScript, ... I think that's it. Oh, PHP.
I've never played with Perl though...
This question has been asked already:
http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/lounge/1953/
I've also played with
VB, VBScript, C, C++, Pascal, Delphi, x86 Assembly, MIPS Assembly, Java, Forth, Haskell, Scheme, Tcl/Tk, Python, hmm... what else... shell languages (bash, c-shell, DOS BAT, etc.), custom languages, awk, make, umm... FORTRAN, JavaScript, ... I think that's it. Oh, PHP.
I've never played with Perl though...
Aug 3, 2008 at 7:42am
I'll look through that, however even if I had found it before, it's archived and I woudln't have been able to reply to it anyway.
So just because i wasn't here in time to chat in that thread, means I'm not allowed to talk about it?
I'm sure that's not what you meant, but it just sorta read that way.
I really do want to learn assembly, but I've just not had much luck with it yet. I'll have to find some very simplistic tutorials on it.
From what I have seen, however, it's very similar to working with MUF from text mucks. maybe not in hot it's implemented, but rather in style.
So just because i wasn't here in time to chat in that thread, means I'm not allowed to talk about it?
I'm sure that's not what you meant, but it just sorta read that way.
I really do want to learn assembly, but I've just not had much luck with it yet. I'll have to find some very simplistic tutorials on it.
From what I have seen, however, it's very similar to working with MUF from text mucks. maybe not in hot it's implemented, but rather in style.
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Aug 4, 2008 at 8:42amclosed account (z05DSL3A)
Basic on the Sinclaire ZX-81...
The first 'real' programming languages were Pascal, Modula-2 and Assembly (Motorola 6800) all at the same time for different 'classes' at university
The first 'real' programming languages were Pascal, Modula-2 and Assembly (Motorola 6800) all at the same time for different 'classes' at university
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Aug 4, 2008 at 11:45amclosed account (z05DSL3A)
| With extra r-types? (SCNR) |
Sorry, I was having a bad day.
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Aug 4, 2008 at 3:10pm
BASIC on Sinclair ZX-80, Comodore Pet, Sharp MZ-80K (and others which I can't remeber - all just a little different from each other...).
Then at Uni a smattering of Fortran (on the DEC Rainbow - anyone rember them?, the joys of an Engineering Degree rather than CS:-), but nothing more complex than most people would do in Excel these days.
The first 'real' programming language would be Pascal - Turbo Pascal and UCSD Pascal, later migrating to Delphi.
And then a whole range of others over the years (VB, numerous scripting languages, C++, Modula-2, SQL, PL/SQL, etc.)
Then at Uni a smattering of Fortran (on the DEC Rainbow - anyone rember them?, the joys of an Engineering Degree rather than CS:-), but nothing more complex than most people would do in Excel these days.
The first 'real' programming language would be Pascal - Turbo Pascal and UCSD Pascal, later migrating to Delphi.
And then a whole range of others over the years (VB, numerous scripting languages, C++, Modula-2, SQL, PL/SQL, etc.)
Aug 4, 2008 at 5:51pm
@Grey Wolf: no problem, it is not like that it was totally uncalled-for. I just liked your typo ;-) Sorry for your day, though. Hope the next one turns out a little better.
Aug 5, 2008 at 8:40pm
Ummz, IIRC I started with C++, then I kinda layed off it and went to VBS, HTML, PHP...I have also done a bunch of random stuff on my TI-84 Plus, mostly video games when I was bored. Then I got back to C++ and was like "Woot! I can actually define variables with names!" (compared to TI-84).
Aug 5, 2008 at 9:00pm
Well, I guess my first programming language would be Javascript. And I was terrible at that.
My first real programming language, however, was C++.
My first real programming language, however, was C++.
Aug 7, 2008 at 6:41am
QuickBASIC, thereby proving Dijkstra was a c*********.
Anyone else hated screen 13?
Anyone else hated screen 13?
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Aug 7, 2008 at 10:52am
Hated it? Mode 13 was the coolest advance the VGA brought to graphics cards. (Just because Basic is a clunky piece of junk can't use the BIOS correctly...)
The real fun came when playing with the various X modes. :-)
The real fun came when playing with the various X modes. :-)
Aug 7, 2008 at 5:43pm
No way!
Whose was the great idea of sorting the palette by HSV?...With a phase of -60°. And even worse was the fact that it wasn't 4:3. Everything looked stretched unless you compensated. 320x200... That's how many times I want to kick that guy.
The one I did love, however, was 12. Now there's something you can use.
Whose was the great idea of sorting the palette by HSV?...With a phase of -60°. And even worse was the fact that it wasn't 4:3. Everything looked stretched unless you compensated. 320x200... That's how many times I want to kick that guy.
The one I did love, however, was 12. Now there's something you can use.
Aug 7, 2008 at 7:08pm
You are aware that you could set the palette to anything you wanted? (Choose 256 out of 262,144 colors.)
And what do you mean, "compensated"? All graphics processing has always had to deal with display aspect ratios. It isn't a great burden to design and use graphics that match the target video mode. Even today with ultra-high resolution displays, pixel sizes other than 1:1 are common.
BTW. It wasn't designed that way out of any malicious intent. It is simply a hardware limitation of the convenience brought about by chained video modes. If it really bothered you, you could always use an unchained X mode. It wasn't as fast or convenient because you had to dink with display planes again, but you could still use 256 colors at once. If you are willing to dink with display planes in mode 12h, why not dink with them and get more than (choose 16 from 64) distinct colors in an X mode?
Oh, and the palette sorting is just a numeric progression.
And what do you mean, "compensated"? All graphics processing has always had to deal with display aspect ratios. It isn't a great burden to design and use graphics that match the target video mode. Even today with ultra-high resolution displays, pixel sizes other than 1:1 are common.
BTW. It wasn't designed that way out of any malicious intent. It is simply a hardware limitation of the convenience brought about by chained video modes. If it really bothered you, you could always use an unchained X mode. It wasn't as fast or convenient because you had to dink with display planes again, but you could still use 256 colors at once. If you are willing to dink with display planes in mode 12h, why not dink with them and get more than (choose 16 from 64) distinct colors in an X mode?
Oh, and the palette sorting is just a numeric progression.
Last edited on Aug 7, 2008 at 7:09pm