Employment at Google
Hi guys,
I would like your opinion. I will be graduating college. Google currently has openings for "Software Engineer" and "Software Engineer in Test".
1) When applying for a job, do you usually apply for a specific position?
2) Is it ok to apply to both positions?
3) I would assume that the majority of people would apply for "Software Engineer" than "Software Engineer in Test". It seems like the advantage would be to be a bit more creative at work as an SE versus an SE in Test. What do you think? Do a lot of people apply for the Engineer in Test position?
4) Lets say for example the majority of people apply for "Software Engineer" (70%) and the rest (30%) apply for Software Engineer in Test. Would the chances of getting the SE in Test position higher?
5) Lastly, lets say I am allowed to only apply for one position. If I apply for the SE position, would it be possible to be considered for the SE in Test position if I am not qualified for the SE position?
Thanks~
I would like your opinion. I will be graduating college. Google currently has openings for "Software Engineer" and "Software Engineer in Test".
1) When applying for a job, do you usually apply for a specific position?
2) Is it ok to apply to both positions?
3) I would assume that the majority of people would apply for "Software Engineer" than "Software Engineer in Test". It seems like the advantage would be to be a bit more creative at work as an SE versus an SE in Test. What do you think? Do a lot of people apply for the Engineer in Test position?
4) Lets say for example the majority of people apply for "Software Engineer" (70%) and the rest (30%) apply for Software Engineer in Test. Would the chances of getting the SE in Test position higher?
5) Lastly, lets say I am allowed to only apply for one position. If I apply for the SE position, would it be possible to be considered for the SE in Test position if I am not qualified for the SE position?
Thanks~
What college, what degree, and why should they pick you? If Google is anything like my company, they receive 150K+ resumes per year. With that many, you either know someone that will refer you or they don't even read your resume.
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They receive 150k+ resumes, but most are irrelevant, so for sure they read them to find those 1% of good ones. Anyway, knowing a few people at Google might help a lot.
I think this maybe sensitive but I decide to post anyway. Does Google take nationality into consideration? Possibly language and culture barriers for example?
Reason I ask is cuz in my country, Google only advertise position for customer service and system support related positions. They do no advertise software engineer related positions. Likewise for M$, they do not advertise software engineer related positions.
My gut feel is both giant houses feel my country isn't producing enough talented software engineers for them to even offer such positions? Or they intend to centralize their software engineers to only a selected few country locations?
Reason I ask is cuz in my country, Google only advertise position for customer service and system support related positions. They do no advertise software engineer related positions. Likewise for M$, they do not advertise software engineer related positions.
My gut feel is both giant houses feel my country isn't producing enough talented software engineers for them to even offer such positions? Or they intend to centralize their software engineers to only a selected few country locations?
You are right - this depends on the number of available talented software engineers, and this is probably correlated to availability of good universities. And "good" is judged somehow differently from how they do it in global university rankings. Our top universities are strangely below the place 300th in many university rankings, yet somehow our students regularly win TopCoder competitions (judging only by rankings MIT students should be always on the top, but this is not true, so.. don't believe rankings) and Google opens a second office with R&D department here.
Another dimension is the price you have to pay to hire a talented developer. Here in Poland, if you earn $80000 annually, which is I believe a not-so-high salary of an experienced software engineer in US, you are considered very rich here - the average is about $15000.
Another dimension is the price you have to pay to hire a talented developer. Here in Poland, if you earn $80000 annually, which is I believe a not-so-high salary of an experienced software engineer in US, you are considered very rich here - the average is about $15000.
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More likely, they house engineering in select locations rather than all over the globe.
| Another dimension is the price you have to pay to hire a talented developer. Here in Poland, if you earn $80000 annually, which is I believe a not-so-high salary of an experienced software engineer in US, you are considered very rich here - the average is about $15000. |
Assume above ball-park figures are in US$, that is quite a lot at least in my country working as a software developer.
| A senior software engineer will make (on average) a 6 digit income in the US. |
Hmmm... that is a lot!
What's the starting salary of a college grad at fortune 100 companies like google, microsoft, apple, amazon, etc?
@Garminic
Lol, It's after those 6 figures...
Now I have no personal experience with this, and those numbers are just based on statistics I've seen cited over the last couple of years. So don't take what I'm saying as creditable without checking it out first!
Lol, It's after those 6 figures...
Now I have no personal experience with this, and those numbers are just based on statistics I've seen cited over the last couple of years. So don't take what I'm saying as creditable without checking it out first!
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Google is currently recruiting. I just found this post on craigslist from yesterday:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/sof/2702005484.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/sof/2702005484.html
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