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C++11 Features in Visual C++ 11
Oct 10, 2011 at 8:52amclosed account (DSLq5Di1)
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2011/09/12/10209291.aspx
This is.. depressing.
This is.. depressing.
Oct 10, 2011 at 9:04pm
Well, at least the concurrency part seems to be more complete than GCC's.
Is it really that surprising that the first release after the new standard will only have a really incomplete feature set? VC++ 7.0 came out in 2003, five years after C++98, and six after VC++ 6.0.
Is it really that surprising that the first release after the new standard will only have a really incomplete feature set? VC++ 7.0 came out in 2003, five years after C++98, and six after VC++ 6.0.
Oct 11, 2011 at 8:32amclosed account (DSLq5Di1)
Well, the draft (not the final obviously) has been out for 3+ years, considering the improvement VS2010 made in support of C++0x, I was hopeful they could cover much more ground with VS11 and somewhat match the GCC feature list. I know I am expecting too much.. but still.. :(
Reading some of the comments on that blog from (Diego Dagum/Stephan Lavavej) provides some insight as to why there is so little C++11 progress. I sometimes forget Visual Studio is not just an IDE for C++.
Reading some of the comments on that blog from (Diego Dagum/Stephan Lavavej) provides some insight as to why there is so little C++11 progress. I sometimes forget Visual Studio is not just an IDE for C++.
Oct 11, 2011 at 12:41pmclosed account (1yR4jE8b)
Microsoft cares very little for C++ these days, it's all mostly about C# and their .Net languages. With Windows 8, they'll be pushing their HTML5 and Javascript tools for Metro applications.
I moved to LLVM long ago.
I moved to LLVM long ago.
Oct 11, 2011 at 1:36pm| Well, the draft (not the final obviously) has been out for 3+ years |
Oct 11, 2011 at 3:53pm| Microsoft cares very little for C++ these days |
Googling a bit left me with the impression that still, large portions of Windows are written in C++. In other words, your statement sounds non-believable to me.
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Oct 11, 2011 at 4:11pm
@tition,
Yeah, and large portions of the software that banks use is still written in COBOL. That doesn't mean the banks like COBOL (who would?), just that they don't want to pay for entirely new software.
I agree that Microsoft doesn't care all that much about C++, and to be honest it's not hard to see why - C# is far easier to program with than C++ and for most things, the performance cost is negligible or unimportant.
Yeah, and large portions of the software that banks use is still written in COBOL. That doesn't mean the banks like COBOL (who would?), just that they don't want to pay for entirely new software.
I agree that Microsoft doesn't care all that much about C++, and to be honest it's not hard to see why - C# is far easier to program with than C++ and for most things, the performance cost is negligible or unimportant.
Oct 12, 2011 at 11:44am| This is.. depressing. |
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