Will i get a job with all the out sourcing?
@Framework
Helios's comment was "uncalled for" but your racist comment wasn't?
That seems pretty hypocritical to me.
Helios's comment was "uncalled for" but your racist comment wasn't?
That seems pretty hypocritical to me.
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I say we just close/delete this thread before this gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of hand...
all in favor?
all in favor?
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You may as well close this thread, as suggested.
I dislike Indians; straight up.
Wazzak
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| Helios's comment was "uncalled for" but your racist comment wasn't? (sic) |
I dislike Indians; straight up.
Wazzak
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Well, I know an Indian or two that I work with that could probably program circles around you.
racist
racist
Why was he reported for that post? Racism is prejudice, prejudice is human nature. Stating he doesn't like a group of people is uncouth, but he didn't say anything slanderous in that post particularly.
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| darkestfright wrote: |
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| racist (sic) |
Racist? Who the f**k are you calling a racist? Mate, you don't even know the full story! I even have black friends FFS! Until you have compelling evidence of my racism, keep your f**king allegations to yourself! And by the way, I dislike Indians doesn't necessarily mean I hate all Indians, only those how impose their religion and those who take the p*s. Keep your words to yourself, darkestfright.
I'm leaving this forum for the time being before I get banned permanently.
Wazzak
To Framework http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFtDNUsImYY
Also, it is absolutely possible to have black friends and be racist against Indians.
Also, it is absolutely possible to have black friends and be racist against Indians.
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I love the "I have black friends" defence. Racism isn't about hating people, it's about descriminating against them. IMO all humans are racist (unless you literally can't differentiate between people of different races) but not all humans are racially prejudiced.
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| I love the "I have black friends" defence. Racism isn't about hating people, it's about descriminating against them. |
Yes, and just because someone is racist against one race in particular doesn't mean that they are racist against all races but their own. I've even seen people that are racist against their own race...that's messed up...
| only those how impose their religion and those who take the p*s |
This is a religious issue and has nothing to do with race. Ever get a visit from a Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormon Missionaries?
Hell, I renounced Christianity for this exact reason.
| Until you have compelling evidence of my racism |
Your do this just fine all on your own:
| I dislike Indians; straight up. |
Pretty broad generalization, eh?
| The Indians here are f*****g useless. The only thing they do is sponge off the Dole. |
Laziness is not a trait that is inherent to just Indians, but to the entire human race. Nice generalization though ;)
| only those how impose their religion and those who take the p*s. |
Sounds more like damage control after being called out to me. FYI, saying "I dislike the people that impose their religion on me" is not racist, but "I dislike the Indians that impose their religion on me" totally is.
| I hate all morons equally, regardless of race. |
I don't hate morons, I feel bad for them.
Laziness is not a trait that is inherent to just Indians, but to the entire human race. Nice generalization though ;) |
Laziness is an obligatory feature of a good programmer.
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| "I dislike the Indians that impose their religion on me" totally is. |
Sorry to play devil's advocate here, but that wouldn't be racist since you put "the Indians". That's not generalising since it's saying that only some Indians are like that and you only dislike those ones. A racist statement would be something like "I dislike Indians because they impose their religion on me."
Racism != generalization
"I dislike Indians because they impose their religion on me" is a generalization and is racist.
"I dislike Indians that impose their religion on me" is racist and not a generalization.
"I dislike people who wear glasses because they impose their religion on me" is a generalization and not racist.
"I dislike Indians because they impose their religion on me" is a generalization and is racist.
"I dislike Indians that impose their religion on me" is racist and not a generalization.
"I dislike people who wear glasses because they impose their religion on me" is a generalization and not racist.
I don't think the second one is racist. It doesn't imply hatred of Indians, merely those that impose their religion.
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What about african americans that impose their religion? or caucasians, or japanese?
A story about outsourcing. A friend of mine is a self-taught programmer (doesn't have a bachelor's degree even) and now works professionally (their company crawls specialized sites on the internet; he is on the team that does data mining). The company is Norwegian, and my friend works in Hungary, so in some sense he is "out-sourced to".
In turn, he is the boss of a team of Indians (based in India) that have, according to their CV's, master's degree in "computer science". However, my friend had to teach them how to write
What he needed his indian team for, was when they did the data mining, one has to parse various header-like information (title, date, author) that changes format in time and from site to site. They could of course write a super-complicated algorithm (like probably google does), but he said that his company decided it was both cheaper and simpler to hire indians to tune the company's parser by hand for each site they crawl... (what a "satisfying" job).
In turn, he is the boss of a team of Indians (based in India) that have, according to their CV's, master's degree in "computer science". However, my friend had to teach them how to write
if and for statements (they work in java/javascript/perl, etc.). He didn't say they were incompetent or bad workers (for what they were hired). They had "CS" diploma on paper, but they were simply never taught how to program.What he needed his indian team for, was when they did the data mining, one has to parse various header-like information (title, date, author) that changes format in time and from site to site. They could of course write a super-complicated algorithm (like probably google does), but he said that his company decided it was both cheaper and simpler to hire indians to tune the company's parser by hand for each site they crawl... (what a "satisfying" job).
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