HD6770M and Intel 3000 HD on same computer.
I bought a laptop that stated HD 6770 as it's GPU, but the settings say that it uses an Intel 3000 HD or something. On the device manager I find both the Intel card and HD6770, but it seem to use the Intel card.
When playing Dragon Age 2, I can get 50 FPS on high with Dx11, 2xAA, 4xAF, is the computer alternating the two? For in minecraft I get horrible performance (10+-2 FPS). Being able to use Dx11 on DA2 means it uses the HD6770, as Intel won't support that at all.
Any way I can force the computer to use the HD 6770 everywhere?
When playing Dragon Age 2, I can get 50 FPS on high with Dx11, 2xAA, 4xAF, is the computer alternating the two? For in minecraft I get horrible performance (10+-2 FPS). Being able to use Dx11 on DA2 means it uses the HD6770, as Intel won't support that at all.
Any way I can force the computer to use the HD 6770 everywhere?
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Modern PC's will switch between using the iGPU and discrete chip on the fly in order to save power. The OS will decide which chip to use based on "graphics profiles", basically a list of executables that should be used with the discrete chip. Everything else will use the integrated chip. You can probably create a custom profile for Minecraft to enable the discrete chip using the ATI control panel or something similar that should be sitting in your system tray.
Typically, you don't want to use the discrete chip everywhere: it's not needed for day to day tasks, and you will eat up much more battery.
Typically, you don't want to use the discrete chip everywhere: it's not needed for day to day tasks, and you will eat up much more battery.
OK. AMD currently has a major problem with switchable graphics. The problem is that switchable graphics card are not working with OpenGL, but are with DX. Minecraft is openGL, so you are forced to use intel graphics.
Ah, you must have purchased either the HP dv6 or the dv7, right? Even if you didn't this will probably be relevant, however.
There is a VERY well-known and widespread problem with those models right now, that HP has been trying to avoid even releasing an official statement about.
Apparently, the models with automatic switching (model #s 6100+?) CANNOT play any OpenGL games on the discrete card, period. Some people think it's a software issue - the drivers just don't recognize any OpenGL software, and therefore see no reason to switch cards. Others think that a hardware could also be the culprit.
This is an unacceptable and severe limitation of what is supposed to be a high-performing laptop, and HP has been trying to ignore it for some time. They did give an "official" statement about it on their forums, and worded it to be as vague as possible. See here: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/Official-HP-statement-on-Switchable-Graphics-and-Open-GL/td-p/766285
"The AMD graphics card in newer HP Pavilion dv6 and dv7 Series models may not
run certain Open GL software." They WILL NOT run OpenGL software, yet they still try to cover it up with wordplay, giving false assumptions that some programs will run.
The point of this long post is that I would advise you to return it if there is not a fix out soon, unless you don't mind not being able to play minecraft or some professional software titles.
HP is supposedly working on a new BIOS version that will somehow manage to let the user switch manually, but they have not said how. Presumably, it would be through the BIOS, but maybe there would be a way using the Catalyst Control Center.
Sorry if this post comes off a bit like a rage, but I am simply dumbfounded at the way HP has handled it so far. I was going to buy this laptop, but I'm thankful I didn't after reading through this forum thread: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/New-dv7-tqe-6100-CTO-Will-Not-Switch-to-ATI-Graphics-6770M-2GB/td-p/712311
There is a VERY well-known and widespread problem with those models right now, that HP has been trying to avoid even releasing an official statement about.
Apparently, the models with automatic switching (model #s 6100+?) CANNOT play any OpenGL games on the discrete card, period. Some people think it's a software issue - the drivers just don't recognize any OpenGL software, and therefore see no reason to switch cards. Others think that a hardware could also be the culprit.
This is an unacceptable and severe limitation of what is supposed to be a high-performing laptop, and HP has been trying to ignore it for some time. They did give an "official" statement about it on their forums, and worded it to be as vague as possible. See here: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/Official-HP-statement-on-Switchable-Graphics-and-Open-GL/td-p/766285
"The AMD graphics card in newer HP Pavilion dv6 and dv7 Series models may not
run certain Open GL software." They WILL NOT run OpenGL software, yet they still try to cover it up with wordplay, giving false assumptions that some programs will run.
The point of this long post is that I would advise you to return it if there is not a fix out soon, unless you don't mind not being able to play minecraft or some professional software titles.
HP is supposedly working on a new BIOS version that will somehow manage to let the user switch manually, but they have not said how. Presumably, it would be through the BIOS, but maybe there would be a way using the Catalyst Control Center.
Sorry if this post comes off a bit like a rage, but I am simply dumbfounded at the way HP has handled it so far. I was going to buy this laptop, but I'm thankful I didn't after reading through this forum thread: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/New-dv7-tqe-6100-CTO-Will-Not-Switch-to-ATI-Graphics-6770M-2GB/td-p/712311
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I tried adding javaw.exe and assign it to the correct GPU, but minecraft still performs bad.
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This is why I bought Lenovo after going through 2 HP laptops (shit hardware all around); never going back.
my stepmother has a laptop that switches on the fly from amd to intel and its behavier is very erratic. even if you designate a card to use it gets confused. it also gets stuck in certain situation like simply unplugging it and it trying to switch to intel. from my own experience its extremely flaky. if you look n your task tray thats usually where the program resides to choose gpu.
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My laptop uses an i5 with HD 3000 and NVIDIA Optimus, and it works amazingly.
My gaming desktop uses Lucid Virtu switching with an i7 2600k and a GTX 580 and it also works amazingly.
Nvidia always wins baby
My gaming desktop uses Lucid Virtu switching with an i7 2600k and a GTX 580 and it also works amazingly.
Nvidia always wins baby
I am no serious gamer so please tell me the hardware specs needed for play FPS. I understand a good graphics card is mandatory but how about the processor chip? Does getting a AMD or Intel chip matters? That is does graphics card also depend on what kind of processor? E.g Nvidia work better with Intel instead of AMD ?
If there is a relationship, then getting the "correct" PC for gaming is looking at BOTH processor make/model and graphics card correct ? I know memory plays a part too in the equation. Is 2GB enuff?
Lastly, to get a decent play-able PC, budget of US$ 1K enough ?
If there is a relationship, then getting the "correct" PC for gaming is looking at BOTH processor make/model and graphics card correct ? I know memory plays a part too in the equation. Is 2GB enuff?
Lastly, to get a decent play-able PC, budget of US$ 1K enough ?
US$ is not my country currency so I was thinking 1K should be quite good? But hmm.... for pricing purposes I currently bought HP-Compaq + AMD Athlon II dual-core processor and the sales-girl told me for heavy gaming it is not recommended but for surf net, simple document processing, listen song, watch DVD is good enough.
darkestfright, no need to be an nVidia missionaire here, my desctop has an HD 6870 and it runs amazingly.
It seems this swapping system is supported by AMD, though I wish there was a simple switch for the dediated card.
To clarify, I did not buy it for gaming's sake, but having it work on a game or two is nice. Dragon Age 2 seem to use the right card, Java does not. If only there was an override switch on both sides, so I can take control over it. I am mostly going to use it for lectures and programming, which are CPU heavy tasks.
After some googling, I found that this in OpenGL is where the problem lies. Does anyone know how to get the CCC to use the discrete on on OpenGL too?
EDIT: HP has announced a week ago to update the BIOS to allow the old system where I can choose what card to use myself whenever I want.
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sohguanh, if you give me a link to a computer store in your country -- it would be nice if it supported english, but if not, at least link me to the place where I find computers on it -- and I could take a look. Also, do you think you can find out what graphics card the computer has?
It seems this swapping system is supported by AMD, though I wish there was a simple switch for the dediated card.
To clarify, I did not buy it for gaming's sake, but having it work on a game or two is nice. Dragon Age 2 seem to use the right card, Java does not. If only there was an override switch on both sides, so I can take control over it. I am mostly going to use it for lectures and programming, which are CPU heavy tasks.
After some googling, I found that this in OpenGL is where the problem lies. Does anyone know how to get the CCC to use the discrete on on OpenGL too?
EDIT: HP has announced a week ago to update the BIOS to allow the old system where I can choose what card to use myself whenever I want.
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sohguanh, if you give me a link to a computer store in your country -- it would be nice if it supported english, but if not, at least link me to the place where I find computers on it -- and I could take a look. Also, do you think you can find out what graphics card the computer has?
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I think www.hp.com or www.compaq.com ?
Anyway dual core 3.2 GHz is considered "old" now that there are even quad core processors out. But based on my needs and I don't do gaming so I get it for S$599 + that store own extended warranty on parts and labor. It is a desktop PC and it is English by default.
As for graphics card I think it is nvidia but not the latest of cuz :)
Anyway dual core 3.2 GHz is considered "old" now that there are even quad core processors out. But based on my needs and I don't do gaming so I get it for S$599 + that store own extended warranty on parts and labor. It is a desktop PC and it is English by default.
As for graphics card I think it is nvidia but not the latest of cuz :)
Go to screen resolution and advanced, there your card's make and model should be stated. Google that followed by benchmarks and you'll get to know how well it runs on certain games.
It's i7 and octacore procesors which are considered the most powerful these days. The latter (i7) is a quad core but some kind of arcane magic called 'hyper threading' make it act like and octacore.
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I have my gaming desctop for most gaming anyways. The laptop I bought to have powerful one for taking notes and doing programming. It runs my DX games nicely though. The keyboard feels awesome compared to Acer Aspire laptops' keyboard, due to the rough texture on the keys and good spacing between them.
It won't be that much of a problem. A fix from HP would be welcome though, as they said something about that BIOS update on their site a week ago.
EDIT: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/OpenGL-Support-Good-News-Everyone/td-p/767927
I hope that is entirely true.
It's i7 and octacore procesors which are considered the most powerful these days. The latter (i7) is a quad core but some kind of arcane magic called 'hyper threading' make it act like and octacore.
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I have my gaming desctop for most gaming anyways. The laptop I bought to have powerful one for taking notes and doing programming. It runs my DX games nicely though. The keyboard feels awesome compared to Acer Aspire laptops' keyboard, due to the rough texture on the keys and good spacing between them.
It won't be that much of a problem. A fix from HP would be welcome though, as they said something about that BIOS update on their site a week ago.
EDIT: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/OpenGL-Support-Good-News-Everyone/td-p/767927
I hope that is entirely true.
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