Zombie Apocalypse - For Real
Seriously though, do you actually have a crossbow?
Can I come round your house and play with your crossbow please? 0_0
Can I come round your house and play with your crossbow please? 0_0
What's all this talk about crossbows and guns?
Think about it... Zombies are already dead and already have various holes in their flesh, rotten/non-functioning vital organs, etc.
How exactly do you expect a crossbow or gun to stop one?
- They won't bleed out
- They don't feel pain
- There's no vital organ you could damage to kill them
The best you could hope for would be to shatter some bone and slow it down, but that wouldn't happen with a crossbow, and it would have to be one giant gun.
I've even seen footage of zombies bodies getting totally blown away and just like their arm from the elbow up is left. But even that keeps crawling along the floor trying to get at you. They're relentless.
Think about it... Zombies are already dead and already have various holes in their flesh, rotten/non-functioning vital organs, etc.
How exactly do you expect a crossbow or gun to stop one?
- They won't bleed out
- They don't feel pain
- There's no vital organ you could damage to kill them
The best you could hope for would be to shatter some bone and slow it down, but that wouldn't happen with a crossbow, and it would have to be one giant gun.
I've even seen footage of zombies bodies getting totally blown away and just like their arm from the elbow up is left. But even that keeps crawling along the floor trying to get at you. They're relentless.
| I've even seen footage of zombies bodies getting totally blown away and just like their arm from the elbow up is left. But even that keeps crawling along the floor trying to get at you. They're relentless. |
Zombie Survival Guide seems to differ. Destroy brain, zombie dies.
Problem is if the dead really are reanimated, well depending on how the reanimation is done there really isn't any way to stop them aside from by making it impossible for them to move or destroying them on the molecular level.
Their are 2 branches of ways to animate the dead. Through supernatural powers or through science.
If it's through some sort of magic, your only option is most likely destroy them completely, break them down beyond the point of repair. There is also the chance that they are constantly being controlled by some Necromancer with near omnipotence. If this is the case, you could also kill the Necromancer, and in turn ending the animation.
Now the magic branch would never be needed as true magic doesn't exist. (not in the way it is portrayed in fantasy) Which is why we should focus on what to do in the event of a science instigated zombie crisis. There are various types of organism out there that can actually animate the dead. The two I can think up off the top of my head are a breed fungus that grows on deceased insects and has the ability to move them, and the other is a bacteria(I think) that does the same thing but is found in the oceans.
All these things need to do is gain access to the central nervous system to control the whole corpse. If it had to I don't think it would be a problem to control disembodied parts as well. So that makes our whole 'take out the brain' idea a bad one. In this case your only option to kill it is to destroy the entire body to as low a level as you can.
To immobilize in either case, anything that could stop any man from moving at all would work for a zombie. Just cause they are undead doesn't mean they can do anything beyond what the muscles of their living selves were capable. Now that said, our muscles are a hell of a lot more capable then what we can make use of. So if you decide to restrain them make sure you keep that in mind.
If the zombies are animated through the bacteria/fungus how ever, you have the added option of a neurotoxin of some kind. Specifically one that will cause paralysis. this how ever could wear off eventually, although that's not necessarily a problem. More on that a little later.
Now to destroy them completely I see two best bets. Incineration, or a large amount of corrosive acid. The problem with incineration is the easiest way to do this is with fire. Why is this a problem? well that means you need to get real close, light them up and hope they dont kill you while they burn, or some how put it out for that matter. This is where the neurotoxin is handy even when it would wear off. Paralyze them entirely, and burn them to ash as quickly as possible.
With corrosive acid you could set lots of traps where they either fall into a pit of it or have a ton of it dumped on them from above. You could of course use the pit trap for our fire method but that isn't as practical as you'd need to have a constant fuel source for the flame.
I think you're best bet above all is to build a decent sized stronghold, with some way to replenish supplies locally (that is fresh water that wont be used up completely any time soon, as well as a water purifier, and a small farm. Animals are optional), and a very deep and respectably wide ditch. Once you've done this (assuming they don't kill you while you are working on it) You must find some way to fill this ditch completely with corrosive acid. Lastly, find and kill any zombies that made it into your strong hold. As long as you have some friends, and if applicable family, you should be able to wait out the zombie apocalypse.
And hey, even if it doesnt end in your life time, one day, some of your descendants will see the end.
Their are 2 branches of ways to animate the dead. Through supernatural powers or through science.
If it's through some sort of magic, your only option is most likely destroy them completely, break them down beyond the point of repair. There is also the chance that they are constantly being controlled by some Necromancer with near omnipotence. If this is the case, you could also kill the Necromancer, and in turn ending the animation.
Now the magic branch would never be needed as true magic doesn't exist. (not in the way it is portrayed in fantasy) Which is why we should focus on what to do in the event of a science instigated zombie crisis. There are various types of organism out there that can actually animate the dead. The two I can think up off the top of my head are a breed fungus that grows on deceased insects and has the ability to move them, and the other is a bacteria(I think) that does the same thing but is found in the oceans.
All these things need to do is gain access to the central nervous system to control the whole corpse. If it had to I don't think it would be a problem to control disembodied parts as well. So that makes our whole 'take out the brain' idea a bad one. In this case your only option to kill it is to destroy the entire body to as low a level as you can.
To immobilize in either case, anything that could stop any man from moving at all would work for a zombie. Just cause they are undead doesn't mean they can do anything beyond what the muscles of their living selves were capable. Now that said, our muscles are a hell of a lot more capable then what we can make use of. So if you decide to restrain them make sure you keep that in mind.
If the zombies are animated through the bacteria/fungus how ever, you have the added option of a neurotoxin of some kind. Specifically one that will cause paralysis. this how ever could wear off eventually, although that's not necessarily a problem. More on that a little later.
Now to destroy them completely I see two best bets. Incineration, or a large amount of corrosive acid. The problem with incineration is the easiest way to do this is with fire. Why is this a problem? well that means you need to get real close, light them up and hope they dont kill you while they burn, or some how put it out for that matter. This is where the neurotoxin is handy even when it would wear off. Paralyze them entirely, and burn them to ash as quickly as possible.
With corrosive acid you could set lots of traps where they either fall into a pit of it or have a ton of it dumped on them from above. You could of course use the pit trap for our fire method but that isn't as practical as you'd need to have a constant fuel source for the flame.
I think you're best bet above all is to build a decent sized stronghold, with some way to replenish supplies locally (that is fresh water that wont be used up completely any time soon, as well as a water purifier, and a small farm. Animals are optional), and a very deep and respectably wide ditch. Once you've done this (assuming they don't kill you while you are working on it) You must find some way to fill this ditch completely with corrosive acid. Lastly, find and kill any zombies that made it into your strong hold. As long as you have some friends, and if applicable family, you should be able to wait out the zombie apocalypse.
And hey, even if it doesnt end in your life time, one day, some of your descendants will see the end.
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| hard to see the Zombie Survival Guide as a very serious or thought-out book |
Are you joking? Of course it's not a serious book. No one writes serious books on zombie survial :P
| hard to see the Zombie Survival Guide as a very serious or thought-out book |
Your right it's not serious, but believe it or not a good deal of what the author writes actually makes sense.
| Are you joking? Of course it's not a serious book. No one writes serious books on zombie survial :P |
Lets hope not.
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| Seriously though, do you actually have a crossbow? |
I know somone very close to where I live who has a crossbow. He's also makes knives, so I already decided he's part of my party when the dead rise.
| I've even seen footage of zombies bodies getting totally blown away and just like their arm from the elbow up is left. But even that keeps crawling along the floor trying to get at you. They're relentless. |
Footage from a movie or some "contained" outbreak in china? Note: The quotes around contained indicate my lack of faith in our governments ability to protect us from the undead :p
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I was only joking about the crossbow.
The Zombie Survival Guide seems to makes sense (as I've read it), but there are so many flaws with its logic that I daren't quote it, and I advise you do the same unless you've really thought it through.
The Zombie Survival Guide seems to makes sense (as I've read it), but there are so many flaws with its logic that I daren't quote it, and I advise you do the same unless you've really thought it through.
| but there are so many flaws with its logic that I daren't quote it |
I agree, there are some things that seem out there or just plain wrong.
| I was only joking about the crossbow. |
I figured, but it never hurts to get to know your way around a crossbow. :)
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@ Seraphimsan: If you can remeber the names of those organisms I'd be interested to read up on them.
For the stereo typical movie zombie, you don't actually need to shoot it in the head to stop them. If the method of reanimation relies on controlling the CNS (think Resident Evil 4) then interupting anything at C7 and above will stop it in its tracks, even if it doesn't actually "die" again it would no longer be a threat.
Seraphimsan is right, anything that would stop a man would stop a zombie. They mentioned neuro-toxins but I was thinking electricity. It's safer to handle, easier to obtain and there is a much wider knowledge base availible for this kind of thing. It also has an added bonus of potentially burning out the nerves so that part of the body is no longer useful.
If you were to go the route of neurotoxins, and you somehow had the resources then I would just go with VX and be done with it. Shutdown the mechnism for the nerve impulses and the zombie mechanically does not have the ability to move. So at the very least in the event of a zombie invasion we know we have the area denial part covered.
For the stereo typical movie zombie, you don't actually need to shoot it in the head to stop them. If the method of reanimation relies on controlling the CNS (think Resident Evil 4) then interupting anything at C7 and above will stop it in its tracks, even if it doesn't actually "die" again it would no longer be a threat.
Seraphimsan is right, anything that would stop a man would stop a zombie. They mentioned neuro-toxins but I was thinking electricity. It's safer to handle, easier to obtain and there is a much wider knowledge base availible for this kind of thing. It also has an added bonus of potentially burning out the nerves so that part of the body is no longer useful.
If you were to go the route of neurotoxins, and you somehow had the resources then I would just go with VX and be done with it. Shutdown the mechnism for the nerve impulses and the zombie mechanically does not have the ability to move. So at the very least in the event of a zombie invasion we know we have the area denial part covered.
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I think this was the first article I read about the fungus.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110511-zombies-ants-fungus-infection-spores-bite-noon-animals-science/
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110511-zombies-ants-fungus-infection-spores-bite-noon-animals-science/
This game seems to be pretty realistic, where what it takes to get you killed is less than most games.
http://projectzomboid.com/blog/
It's still in dev, but I'm definitely going to:
1. Buy it.
or
2. follow it till it's done then buy it.
http://projectzomboid.com/blog/
It's still in dev, but I'm definitely going to:
1. Buy it.
or
2. follow it till it's done then buy it.
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