Pet Peeves about Windows (Or Proof that Microsoft is Evil)
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Well I have a macbook pro (OSX and WIN7), a windows compie (XP), and a linux box (Ubuntu)- I actually like all three! There are some things that I absolutely hate about all three, these are my tops for the corresponding OSs-
Windows (countless). However my main complaint is actually the difficulty in interfacing with hardware programmatically
OSX. I really dislike the lack of low level control, which should be innate in the OS.
Linux. I hate the lack of superior programs.
My favorite overall... Well I like Linux the most- for it's ideals and the essential total control over the system. OSX and Windows are tied for second because, as a programmer, there's nothing missing that I can't fill with my own programs- however I have recently found that I dislike more and more about osx- at the same time it's really growing on me =)
Well I have a macbook pro (OSX and WIN7), a windows compie (XP), and a linux box (Ubuntu)- I actually like all three! There are some things that I absolutely hate about all three, these are my tops for the corresponding OSs-
Windows (countless). However my main complaint is actually the difficulty in interfacing with hardware programmatically
OSX. I really dislike the lack of low level control, which should be innate in the OS.
Linux. I hate the lack of superior programs.
My favorite overall... Well I like Linux the most- for it's ideals and the essential total control over the system. OSX and Windows are tied for second because, as a programmer, there's nothing missing that I can't fill with my own programs- however I have recently found that I dislike more and more about osx- at the same time it's really growing on me =)
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One thing I was a bit annoyed at with Win7 was that their paint program is more "advanced." I put this in quotes because their new paint program makes it harder to perform quick image-editing procedures, and a lot of the controls are unintuitive. For instance, if you select a part of the image, move it, and try to select something else, if you're within 10 pixels of the last selection's border you'll end up resizing it. Same goes for autoshapes - make a circle, try to make another circle, but oops! You accidentally resized your other circle.
On a somewhat related topic, when I booted up today windows had a brain fart that I think was caused by an update because windows had just installed 5 updates. It went to BSoD, restarted, and went to a windows repair screen (which had graphics from windows 2000). Did anyone else get this?
On a somewhat related topic, when I booted up today windows had a brain fart that I think was caused by an update because windows had just installed 5 updates. It went to BSoD, restarted, and went to a windows repair screen (which had graphics from windows 2000). Did anyone else get this?
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I've had random BSOD's coming out of Suspend, turned out to be terrible ATI drivers.
All Operating Systems have flaws but one thing is for sure. Most users scares linux command line interface. Most users don't bother reading "blah blah blah!!" instructions or read "readme" files.
But in developers side (not all), linux is just awesome and stable. Overall Windows still wins the market because of this.
But in developers side (not all), linux is just awesome and stable. Overall Windows still wins the market because of this.
*cries*
Why must Apple use proprietary hardware? WHY?!? Now I have to jump through hoops to install an open-source operating system EDIT: and make it work the way I want it to with working audio and everything!
-Albatross
Why must Apple use proprietary hardware? WHY?!? Now I have to jump through hoops to install an open-source operating system EDIT: and make it work the way I want it to with working audio and everything!
-Albatross
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Well you see Alby, Steve Jobs is a tremendous prick. I'm sure the OS is fine and all ( actually i know it is, I've used it on my PC) and the hardware isnt bad. It's just...he wants all of your money, and he can't have that if you're able to run anything he doesn't like on the machine that you've bought from him (through his company)
MY problem with apple is the fact that they lie on their page (see their page on open source software, they claim to be the first major company to promote it and use it). Their users (the majority of them) have a mentality that I hate. And they over price their everything...
MY problem with apple is the fact that they lie on their page (see their page on open source software, they claim to be the first major company to promote it and use it). Their users (the majority of them) have a mentality that I hate. And they over price their everything...
Exactly! Everything you said about Apple rings true. :(
I can more than stand Mac OS X and I like it more than I did Windows, so I'm not going to be rushing to get a new computer any time soon. However, when this thing dies, I'm definitely going to get a system that I can install FreeBSD on. Or an LFS system. Or maybe Fedora. I'm not sure; one of the above. :)
Then again, I never said what the cause of the system's death has to be...
-Albatross
I can more than stand Mac OS X and I like it more than I did Windows, so I'm not going to be rushing to get a new computer any time soon. However, when this thing dies, I'm definitely going to get a system that I can install FreeBSD on. Or an LFS system. Or maybe Fedora. I'm not sure; one of the above. :)
Then again, I never said what the cause of the system's death has to be...
sudo hackerport install PDoSKit; sudo PDoSKit -the_works localhost |
-Albatross
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| MY problem with apple is the fact that they lie on their page (see their page on open source software, they claim to be the first major company to promote it and use it). Their users (the majority of them) have a mentality that I hate. And they over price their everything... |
Basically apple promote a holier than thou mindset. If you purchase their products you are considered in a league above others :(
Metallica song come to my mind.... Holier than thou, you know not !
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| It's just...he wants all of your money, and he can't have that if you're able to run anything he doesn't like on the machine that you've bought from him |
Sounds like Microsoft and the XBox or Sony and the PS3 etc. etc. I must admit that it came as a big shock to discover that a company was in business to make money...oh wait a minute, no it didn't.
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| MY problem with apple is the fact that they lie on their page (see their page on open source software, they claim to be the first major company to promote it and use it). |
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| As the first major computer company to make Open Source development a key part of its ongoing software strategy, Apple remains committed to the Open Source development model. |
Not entirely how you portrayed it, unless you are talking about a different page.
You should, along with a proper references, supply information to support your assertion that 'X' is a lie.
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| Didn't Apple learn a lesson from history? |
They have, hence why they made Mac OS UNIX-based. I agree about the prices, though (I still bought one, though, since I needed a new computer and had the money for a Mac, which was Linux as it should be to me).
| Most users don't bother reading "blah blah blah!!" instructions or read "readme" files. |
This is what bothers me the most with (a very small part of) the linux community: why should I HAVE to read the manual or instructions to run my system? This is really a bad bad thinking among a certain very vocal (but hopefully also very small) minority of linux users.
Why shouldn't a computer function properly *by default*? Must I know all physics, all parts of my car, and the particular chemical and physical properties of its various parts, in order to be allowed to drive? Under this logic, it would take you 10 years to learn how to drive a car. Why should it be so? Can't you just learn the usual driving lessons and safety and go?
I have been a linux user for more than a year now, last half year spent 100% at linux.
I do not like the console and avoid using it if possible. I am very glad ubuntu has a great graphical user interface for configuring my system.
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My mum is able to use a Linux OS ( Ubuntu ) without knowing what the console is and without reading any manual
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| Why shouldn't a computer function properly *by default*? Must I know all physics, all parts of my car, and the particular chemical and physical properties of its various parts, in order to be allowed to drive? Under this logic, it would take you 10 years to learn how to drive a car. Why should it be so? Can't you just learn the usual driving lessons and safety and go? |
When I installed every Linux distro I've ever used (about eight so far) I just popped the disk in and it worked. Then I ran the installer, installed it, booted it and... it worked. The only problems I've ever had with it came as a result of my knack for messing with configuration files before knowing what they do and my forgetfulness (e.g. forgetting to tell GRUB about my new kernel and then deleting the old one, leaving my Linux system unbootable). I've only ever had to read man pages and other documentation when I needed to do something that the vast majority of users will never need to do. I can't really speak for using the console because I find it easy to use and often use it by choice.
With Windows, the majority of issues I've ever had were, again, caused by my tinkering, unable-to-leave-system-files-alone, ways. The rest were caused by my or someone else's absence of mind or care-/thoughtlessness. However, I find Linux alot easier to use than Windows. I find it more logically structured, I like how the GUI and command-line work together, I generally like how it works. Whether that's because I've used it so much since I first tried it (August 2009ish) or because it just suits me more, I cannot say, though I'm inclined to think it's the latter.
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| When I installed every Linux distro I've ever used (about eight so far) I just popped the disk in and it worked. Then I ran the installer, installed it, booted it and... it worked. The only problems I've ever had with it came as a result of my knack for messing with configuration files before knowing what they do and my forgetfulness (e.g. forgetting to tell GRUB about my new kernel and then deleting the old one, leaving my Linux system unbootable). |
You sir, are a very lucky man. I've lost count of the times where my videocard has stopped working because of a kernel update (need to recompile the kernel modules), wireless or sound didn't work right off the bat or at all, or a complete system meltdown after a normal update (this has only happened to me with Fedora).
While I generally agree that the layout of Linux systems is generally more thought out and structured, the tools that are provided to actually configure said system are pretty weak in a practical sense. With Windows I rarely have to edit raw-text files (this is 2010, come on!), and everything is generally easily accessible through the control panel.
*nix has an advantage at being able to automate pretty much anything using shell scripts but tools like Msys/Cygwin/Powershell make it good enough for my personal use.
Please note that I would never EVER run a Windows server.
Ultimately, it's the 'right tool for the right job' deal.
| the tools that are provided to actually configure said system are pretty weak in a practical sense. With Windows I rarely have to edit raw-text files (this is 2010, come on!) |
| and everything is generally easily accessible through the control panel. |
| I never have to edit raw text files on Ubuntu and I'm one of those who change every possible setting to see which fits best. |
System > Preference | Administration
or gconf-editor
Usually you can install programs which have the only purpose of giving you access to settings that are inaccessible by default
or gconf-editor
Usually you can install programs which have the only purpose of giving you access to settings that are inaccessible by default
you still use diskettes? I haven't personally used one since I bought an overpriced flash stick when they first came out. I payed a few hundred (US) for ... I can't even remember 32 Megs or something. The ones I have now I payed around 15 (US$) and the one in my pocket is 16 Gigs... I've washed it twice, dropped my computer on it, stepped on it, snapped the half broken thing back together and threw tape around it to hold it together and it works fine...
oh, the topic... hmm, use Linux or BSD or something
--edit: that was a reply to ne555 on page 1
oh, the topic... hmm, use Linux or BSD or something
--edit: that was a reply to ne555 on page 1
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