How offensive am I?
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Often I see comments like "that sucks", "gay", "bitches", "tits", etc on websites like youtube. We live in different countries and we take these words in different ways. so my questions are
1. Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult?
2. What do you think about those behaviors (written above) and how do you deal with it. (state your country if you don't mind)
3. Do you find someone offensive in this thread http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/28937/#msg157147
1. Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult?
2. What do you think about those behaviors (written above) and how do you deal with it. (state your country if you don't mind)
3. Do you find someone offensive in this thread http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/28937/#msg157147
2. I don't understand why people act like this. Ignorance is not bliss, it is evil. I deal with it by trying my best to ignore it, but my streamsize limit is too low sometimes :(
3. Yes. :(
3. Yes. :(
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I think many of those comments on youtube are meant to shock/amuse/troll.
However, I highly prefer free expression of opinions (even if they may be offensive to some) over suppression of free thought.
If I don't like what someone has expressed, it's usually not too hard to ignore...
However, I highly prefer free expression of opinions (even if they may be offensive to some) over suppression of free thought.
If I don't like what someone has expressed, it's usually not too hard to ignore...
Well, I don't want to start an argument in this thread, but I see that type of language as insulting someone, not expressing yourself. And I am not the only one who sees it this way, which is why it is considered offensive...
Yes, some people are offensive; there will always be offensive people, unless Big Brother increases suppression.
Rap is offensive to some; should it be stopped? I think not, but there will be some who disagree.
OTOH, racism and fascism is illegal in a lot of places, for good effect.
I think, in general, there is currently a decent balance between freedom and expression, but realize that there are many large institutions (governments, corporations, radical religious groups) who would prefer to suppress.
Rap is offensive to some; should it be stopped? I think not, but there will be some who disagree.
OTOH, racism and fascism is illegal in a lot of places, for good effect.
I think, in general, there is currently a decent balance between freedom and expression, but realize that there are many large institutions (governments, corporations, radical religious groups) who would prefer to suppress.
Does anybody remember the troll that came some time ago saying "You are all gay niggers" just to state that the internet shouldn't be censored?
Freedom of expression and being rude are two different things, you can say what you are thinking without explicitly insulting people
Freedom of expression and being rude are two different things, you can say what you are thinking without explicitly insulting people
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| Freedom of expression and being rude are two different things, you can say what you are thinking without explicitly insulting people. |
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1) Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult?
I just believe this has to do with the reluctance and profit taken out of the fact that anyone is anonymous on the internet. Given a loose community (one in which people barely communicate) like Youtube, flaming, trolling and insulting are very common. In a lot of times people don't even mean it, and just don't care what people think about them (because they don't know who you are). I have found the same reluctance on caring about others in the gaming community some time ago. "DIE DIE DIE SON OF A BITCH, DIE DIE DIE. *prrt* *prrrt*"
(I'm not saying games are bad, I'm just saying you shouldn't get carried away from the real world that much, sure, you can have fun with playing games; but a lot more often do I hear "Fuck, damnit, I finally beat that fucking shit level." instead of "Yahoo, oh joyous day did I beat that level, didn't I?")
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| 1. Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult? |
The insult is intended, but I believe the level of insult intended is mild. I also believe that if westerns understood how this insult was heard they would have chosen different words. There is an assumption that we westerns make because we are using English that other readers will hear the correct level of insult.
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| Often I see comments like "that sucks", "gay", "bitches", "tits" |
Actually the words you listed are so over-used that they have lost their effectiveness. If you want insult someone like Incubbus obviously planned to do with his comment of :
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Then offensive words are not needed. Some of the best trolls are great at feigning politeness.
I am from the large east coast city in the US.
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The high amount of what most people call "10 year old mingebags of doom" only strengthens my point of people not caring about others' opinions, or not even knowing how their own message can be interpreted. The insult is not necessarily intended, but even if it were, the poster simply wouldn't care. All the trolling is for the so called "ego boost", which is virtually worthless on a location like the internet.
I am from the Netherlands.
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I am from the Netherlands.
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| Win**I I am shocked and appalled. |
HAH! (helios++)
1. Sometimes they do mean to insult, sometimes they say it because it's easy and makes them look like they have guts to people who don't feel it's easy, sometimes just to shock because it's "fun". Mostly the latter, but when it's either of the former you can usually tell by the emotions behind the statement.
2. They are fairly pathetic, but I just ignore them (aside from making a reference that someone does one of these). Oh, and California, USA.
3. Yes... I hope if he/she sees this thread he/she doesn't take it in a bad way.
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What I done did man? What I done did!?
I find it amusing whenever people start doing that, because it usually means they are generally frustrated with themselves, and since they don't usually blame themselves, they resort to insulting others to attempt to feel better.
What I done did man? What I done did!?
I find it amusing whenever people start doing that, because it usually means they are generally frustrated with themselves, and since they don't usually blame themselves, they resort to insulting others to attempt to feel better.
thanks for all the replies, I will sure use these for improving my understanding of other people.
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| 1. Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult? |
| 2. What do you think about those behaviors (written above) and how do you deal with it. (state your country if you don't mind) |
As to country, I'm in the UK but I think peoples reaction and tolerance is more to do with the social etiquette of the groups people belong to. I have friends who are quite puritanical and don't like it when any rude words are used in any context. When I'm around people that are 'sensitive' to the language used I try to moderate what I say out of respect to them. If I loose respect for them then I tend not to moderate my language but it is not to intentionally insult.
| 3. Do you find someone offensive in this thread http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/28937/#msg157147 |
Words themselves are harmless, it is the intent behind then that gives them power. The intent is not always easy to interpret in plain text.
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| Words themselves are harmless, it is the intent behind then that gives them power. The intent is not always easy to interpret in plain text. |
This. It's up to the reader to be offended more than the writer to offend. Be aware that your interpretation may not be the only one.
One interesting thing I had noticed when I moved from PA to CA was that many people there don't get dry humor. They only hear the words and take them at face value. It was kind of silly out there; I moved back.
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| This. It's up to the reader to be offended more than the writer to offend. Be aware that your interpretation may not be the only one. |
I disagree. I think people ought to be aware of how their words can be taken, and should make the effort not to use ambiguous language.
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| One interesting thing I had noticed when I moved from PA to CA was that many people there don't get dry humor. They only hear the words and take them at face value. It was kind of silly out there; I moved back. |
I get this all the time; people always take my words at face-value. I use the word "hate" alot when referring to things or people that I strongly dislike (I wouldn't say I actually hate anyone or anything) but I've always assumed that people would understand that I don't actually hate whatever it is I said I hate. I guess I just ought to learn to be more careful with the way I talk.
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1. Are western people have habit on saying rude words but not intentionally insult or do they mean to insult?
I would have to say that it would be some Western people...unfortunately growing in number steadily; but there are still quite a few of the good ones left.
2. What do you think about those behaviors (written above) and how do you deal with it. (state your country if you don't mind)
I usually just (over the internet) do not post if the OP appears to be that kind of person. Moreover, I think it's just a stage that youngsters get into trying to fit into what they believe is 'cool'. I'm living in the eastern United States currently, by the way.
3. Do you find someone offensive in this thread http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/28937/#msg157147
Absolutely, that is if you define an offense along the lines of an act of attacking or assaulting. I think that "Suck It" fits the definition pretty well.
I would have to say that it would be some Western people...unfortunately growing in number steadily; but there are still quite a few of the good ones left.
2. What do you think about those behaviors (written above) and how do you deal with it. (state your country if you don't mind)
I usually just (over the internet) do not post if the OP appears to be that kind of person. Moreover, I think it's just a stage that youngsters get into trying to fit into what they believe is 'cool'. I'm living in the eastern United States currently, by the way.
3. Do you find someone offensive in this thread http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/28937/#msg157147
Absolutely, that is if you define an offense along the lines of an act of attacking or assaulting. I think that "Suck It" fits the definition pretty well.
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| Actually the words you listed are so over-used that they have lost their effectiveness. If you want insult someone like Incubbus obviously planned to do with his comment of : |
Can you imagine somebody using instead:
Shove your static cast into your virtual void, you lazy inherited class!
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I find that people are so accustomed to expletives that if your talk without profaning your mouth, you are not taken seriously and this is something I've seen come up again and again.
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