Custom Built PCs

[helios]

Not when I'm using a keyboard.
Also, http://www.google.com.ar/

[chrisname]

Oh. I tried google.ar and it didn't exist so I assumed they just had them per-language rather than per-country.

[filipe]

I'm brazilian, my mother tongue is portuguese, and whenever I need to find anything online that is not specific to Brazil I prefer to do the search in english. There's simply a lot more reliable material published in english than in any other language.

[chrisname]

Fair enough.

[NGen]

If your CPU is getting over 60C then you need to fix your cooling. For GPUs it's not such a problem - mine regularly gets to ~91C when playing GTAIV. I think GPUs can survive past 120C so 100C isn't THAT bad. I'd still recommend better cooling, especially for your CPU.

My CPU and graphics cards are both water cooled. The graphics cards are heating the water up to high temperatures, which makes the water cooling for the CPU less effective. If the water's already hot, you can't add much more heat to it. I need a better radiator, which is the problem.

If your CPU is getting over 60C then you need to fix your cooling. For GPUs it's not such a problem - mine regularly gets to ~91C when playing GTAIV. I think GPUs can survive past 120C so 100C isn't THAT bad. I'd still recommend better cooling, especially for your CPU.

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How does the GTX 460 compare to the GTX 260? What about the GTX 295?

GTX 295 is outdated... by a long shot. I think there's... one retailer selling it still on Newegg? The GTX 400 series cards are the latest and greatest, 90% SLI scaleability. Radeon 5970 is still the fastest, but put two GTX 260s in SLI and you get performance exceeding that of the Radeon 5970, for $300 less. ATI's 5830 cards go for about the same price and are a bit slower, and when you put them in Crossfire you get nowhere near the same amount of FPS scaling, it's about a 15-30% boost.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/5

There's the benchmarks, and thus the proof. Not to mention that many tech sites are raving about how this card is best for your buck.



For checking my GPU temps I either use ATI's Catalyst Control Center, or MSI Afterburner. They both can be used for overclocking, but only Afterburner can up the GPU voltage.

[chrisname]

NGen wrote:

The graphics cards are heating the water up to high temperatures, which makes the water cooling for the CPU less effective.

Re-arrange the loop such that the water reaches the CPU first, and/or get a better radiator. Do you use actual water?

You could probably get industrial coolant, refrigerator fluid, or whatever it is they put in aerosol cans that keep them so cold because they're always really cold.

GTX 295 is outdated... by a long shot.

I still have a GeForce 9 GPU, and plenty of people have GeForce 8 serieses.

[Seraphimsan]

[quote="chrisname"]I still have a GeForce 9 GPU, and plenty of people have GeForce 8 serieses.
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And yet his point is still valid :P

Also I'm running a GSO250....and it's going fine for me :P

[NGen]

By outdated I mean that there are few retailers actually still selling them. The GeForce 200 series cards have been outdated by the 400 series because they are practically the same price with more power.

Re-arrange the loop such that the water reaches the CPU first, and/or get a better radiator. Do you use actual water?

You could probably get industrial coolant, refrigerator fluid, or whatever it is they put in aerosol cans that keep them so cold because they're always really cold.

I'll look into that, but I don't use regular water. It's something by GIGABYTE, not entirely sure what kind it is exactly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoJZm3PEdYs

There's my rig, as you can see the CPU is already getting the water first. But like I said, the radiator not disipating heat fast enough is the big issue here, since it's only a single-fan rad. I need a dual-fan, but I'm not entirely sure how I'd get the radiator on the back of my computer (which is my only option unless I get a replacement fitting for my graphics card which can pivot, and my parents have had enough of me opening up my computer) since the dual-fan rad would cover up most of the expansion slots in the back.


As for the GTX 460, I'm getting two ASAP. A solution that offers more speed than the $700 Radeon HD 5970 for only ~$400-450? Worth it.