KtxMnu - can you rate it?

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@zapshe:
Also, here's a mini review for the Password Locket, it sucks. The interface is so far from user friendly I didn't even want to look at it.



FYI, we gave Password Locket to a 56 year old secretary and she found it quite intuitive.

We gave her the app a week ago and can report that she was still using it when we check up on her yesterday - clearly then, this app isn't that hard for her to understand and she definitely appears to find it useful.

@zapshe:
Not the point. I've never had to do this for any other software, meaning it's highly un-intuitive.


That is not true, there already exist many examples of very good software that was launched with videos. These videos compliment their good software by allowing the user to observe the correct usage of it. This should enhance the users experience of the software by removing any figuring out required on their side.
Irrespective of how simple and intuitive a piece of software is, there usually exist some degree of unsureness of its use and operation when used for the very first time. Having a video to dispell of any unsureness regardless of how small should be seen as a good positive thing and not scoffed at.
@Duthomhas:
The fact is, whether people think it is deserved or not, cplusplus.com is typically the highest-ranked C++ forum on the net.


Quick question: what will you tell some new member asking how they can easily add their own programs to the windows right click context menu.
Are you going to tell them that you find no reason to do such a thing and should therefore stop asking such a question.
This would not contribute to cplusplus.com's high rating.

Offering Fury Guys advice of updating the registry is dangerous and will also result in this sites ratings going down, especially if some newbie ends up breaking some system because of following it.
Since this may be something that only you and a relatively small group can do, it is not therefore worth offering as advice.

Directing people to paid for software out there that doesn't really allow one to run their own software but rather to run and manage options provided is also not a solution.

The only other option left would be to be quite and pretend you've never seen a viable solution.

Unless you guys can offer some other advice not listed here already then your responses to such a question would NOT serve this sites ratings very well, and that would all be because you are that hell bent on not looking at KtxMnu and thereby cannot speak to its abilities or have already looked and won't speak to its outstanding abilities especially in this regard.
In actual fact we actually regarded him on a higher level than he even placed himself (note that we asked if he was able to crack passwords in the super professional manner that you really only see in the movies - to which he replied NO).

Because that's not how decryption works. Not that it doesn't happen, but not in 1 minute just because someone needed to crack it.


FYI, we gave Password Locket to a 56 year old secretary and she found it quite intuitive.

Great for her. Now, as someone with standards, my statements stand. It was a review not a debate.


That is not true, there already exist many examples of very good software that was launched with videos.

That I never bother watching because I can be up and running after a few minutes of poking around. The only time I refer to a video is in things like Photoshop when I want to do something VERY specific and I'm not going to go through all the possible ways to do it.

Again, this is ME. Others may always have to watch a video, I don't and don't want to. Frankly, if I have to in order to figure it out, then something about the application isn't intuitive.


Having a video to dispell of any unsureness regardless of how small should be seen as a good positive thing and not scoffed at.

Nothing to do with what my point was.
@zapshe: So how would you respond if some user wants to know how they can add their own apps to the windows right click context menu.

Will you provide all the responses I already listed above that you guys made?

As pointed out, those responses are quite pathetic.

If I was a user asking such I question I will be far happier receiving a response pointing toward KtxMnu that really works as opposed to all the other responses already listed (that you guys made) that DOES NOT really work.


I would actually be quite pissed off at such crappy responses especially if I become aware of KtxMnu as an option and realized that you guys were aware of it but chose to pretend it does not exist which is most likely due to your unwarranted bias toward me and my company.

So, just to iterate, how would you respond if some user wants to know how they can add their own apps to the windows right click context menu?



So how would you respond if some user wants to know how they can add their own apps to the windows right click context menu.

I'd take them to this website I found in 10 seconds:

https://blogs.systweak.com/best-context-menu-editors-for-windows/


I have some of these programs. And even if they didn't exist, editing the registry manually is a very simple job. Programs like Malwarebytes and CCleaner will automatically edit it to include themselves in your context menu if you choose to.


As pointed out, those responses are quite pathetic.

Just like your software. Not only did you not want to use a free software that you could advertise as being "unbreakable", but you also made flimsy looking programs that don't even have a resolution of 1080p and look like 1970s garbage compared to the smooth and high quality EVERYTHING ELSE.


If I was a user asking such I question I will be far happier receiving a response pointing toward KtxMnu that really works as opposed to all the other responses already listed (that you guys made) that DOES NOT really work.


Not only do they work, but your reply was 100% bias.


So, just to iterate, how would you respond if some user wants to know how they can add their own apps to the windows right click context menu?

Definitely not by recommending yours! I absolutely love useful programs made by smaller companies. CCleaner, Malwarebytes, Music Bee, MPC-HC, Shutup10, etc.. I've had these programs for years, before some of them were as big as now. Even though some of them are still small scale, they get updated every once in a while, are easy to use, and are REALLY useful.

On the other hand, your program was overly complex, an eye sore, and was the kind of program that I'd get because I thought it might be useful, but then uninstall because it was stupid.

One of the major things in programming is the I/O. A wise programmer once said, if you have to explain the interface, then you have to redo the interface.
LOL, zapshe, she’s dragging you along with “what if” arguments and putting words into other people’s mouths. I assume you are getting some kind of kick out of this...
I can't speak for zapshe, duh, but for me personally following these two Ang threads have been a hoot.

Watching people give their honest opinions and the resulting meltdowns have been instructive.
I assume you are getting some kind of kick out of this...

I like to see how long they drag out meaningless garbage before they see reason. Some people see reason eventually, some people delude themselves because their self-preservation trumps all. It's also summer break so I honestly have more free time than I know what to do with xD
BTW, thought I'd show an application I made a while back, my very first non-console one.

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/va7qwdm9n07f4/Shutdown_Hibernate


It'll only be available for 14 days. It's a shutdown/hibernate/or sleep timer. It's super useful when I want to go to bed and let my computer do something, but don't want it to say on when it finishes. Or I'm leaving to go somewhere and I want it to finish something while I'm gone. I found that nothing, no Windows timer or external application, would actually work.

The application looks pretty nice if I say so myself. My only regret was not being able to up the resolution of the text, which doesn't look very crisp on my 4K screen. However, it still looks fine.

Also, notice how a video isn't needed, the application is very intuitive. Though I'm bias in saying that, I assume others would agree.
@zapshe:
I'd take them to this website I found in 10 seconds:


http://www.mediafire.com/folder/va7qwdm9n07f4/Shutdown_Hibernate




That whole list of tools is useless in answering the questiom except for the second one that seemed to have a little promise.
The second option I'm refering to is context menu editor and this doesn't even work.

The documentation on this one "claimed" that it can allow you to add any program into your windows right click context menu for windows 7 and vista (already limited relative to KtxMnu that works on all versions of windows - hahaha)
My developer downloaded and installed it on a windows 7 64 bit virtual machine and unfortunately for you it did not work.

All it did was open a dialog box into which he entered the paths to the exe called ArchiveFile and its associated bitmap as well as the text to be associated with the item/
After hitting the "Set" button we expected to see the option in the right click context menu when clicking on any file from windows explorer and total commander, but did NOT.

He then assumed that he may have done something wrong and asked 3 other individuals to also test context menu editor and the result was the same for all 3. No one was able to get it to work.
This software seems to be broken or it never worked.
Can you or someone provide a video link that demonstrates this thing in action similar to how we've done for KtxMnu.

I suppose no such video and you don't have a "working" copy of context menu editor (unless you haven't tried it yourself which would be quite stupid then for you to recommend to someone else) that you can email me.

Even if you could email me a "working" copy of context menu editor (which I seriously doubt) it still would improve your case - you are ultimately still referring people to a place (top 10 bla bla bla ...) that doesn't answer the actual question or doesn't actually work.

I am betting that no such fixed version of context menu editor exists and will assume you never actually tried it, instead you landed on that page and blindly suggested it over our actual working software that even if context menu editor was working (WHICH IT IS NOT) would still be inferior in abilities relative to KtxMnu.

To assume otherwise would be to infer that you know that option 2 on the list you suggested does not work but will still willfully mislead members reading this post into using a site/solution that does not work / answer the question.
Could any of the other members on this site please verify what I am saying and set the record straight so as to let zapshe know to stop suggesting this link for the question mentioned above as it does not work.


What will you respond if a member on this site if some other members follows the advice you gave and also reports that it does not work.

Why has none of the other members on this site not verified that this link suggested by zapshe does not work and not address the issue.

Are they blindly accepting what he is claiming as valid - if so then my advice to the rest of you guys is to take a look yourself and speak up.

Or should other readers of this thread/post and myself to infer by there silence that they agree with your obviously flawed suggestions?

And why would they agree with your wrong advice when any reader of this post can very simply and easily verify for themselves that KtxMnu works while context menu editor (your suggestion) does not work.

Wouldn't this bring discredit to this site and ultimately affect its high rating for a developer site/hub?

Ultimately once people realize your suggested isn't a valid solution for the problem stated then the question "how do you respond to someone wanting to know how to add their own apps into the windows right click context menu" still begs an answer.

Angie out ... :)
That whole list of tools is useless in answering the questiom except for the second one that seemed to have a little promise.

You f*cking liar. I just used it and it worked JUST FINE. All I had to do was set its compatibility mode to "Windows 7" (which I figured out within 30 seconds) and the program opened (it didn't want to open wanting admin privileges) and it worked just fine. I tested it with the Batman video game, Batman Arkham Knight, it's now in my right click context menu. You guys are DUMB if you couldn't make this tool work. Also... WHY ON A VIRTUAL MACHINE?

Not only that, ALL 10 OF THOSE TOOLS CAN EDIT THE CONTEXT MENU. Why do you even exist? Are you at least eye candy since there seems to be a feeling of emptiness in your skull?


that doesn't answer the actual question or doesn't actually work.

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Perhaps I came in a bit heated. I was just arguing with someone who said doctors are frauds because germs don't exist.


Here are links to images of this working just fine on my computer - Windows 10, Lenovo Y720

https://ibb.co/N9dDW4p


This is a good tool because the image you see in the context menu can also be given it's own path in the application, so you're not forced to use the icon that the file already has. Icons look kind of small on there because it's a 4K screen and Windows screws up the aspect ratios after a few hibernations, I have to restart. You can see that it's true for all icons and not just the one setup by the application. Even if one doesn't work for a particular setup, the others surely will.
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@zapshe:
You f*cking liar. I just used it and it worked JUST FINE. All I had to do was set its compatibility mode to "Windows 7" (which I figured out within 30 seconds) and the program opened (it didn't want to open wanting admin privileges) and it worked just fine.


Aha - we followed the suggestion and yes you are correct in that it does work when the compatibility mode is set to Windows 7 and set to run as administrator but the issue is that this only seems to work when right clicking on your desktop (and not even an item on your desktop).

This is not very effective as a right click context menu tool as the only context it is addressing is that of running a program unconditionally without concern of the context (ie show options A, B, C for txt or doc files while show options J,K,I for exe and cmd files).

I am not trying to be argumentative here - all I want to point out is that our tool is capable of catering for range of functionality that does not seem possible to achieve with any of the top 10 listed in the link you provided.

For example, just watch our part 3 video in the links provided above and see if you can suggest any tool from the list you already referred or some other site where you will be able to cater for the type of functionality our tool is capable of.

his is a good tool because the image you see in the context menu can also be given it's own path in the application, so you're not forced to use the icon that the file already has


Our one caters for this as well (our use bitmaps instead of icons though) but if you check the video for part 3 https://youtu.be/M8qNQhA4qOA you will note that our tool also allows you to set the file specification (like *.doc or work_*_meeting.txt).

I understand that there may have been miscommunication w.r.t. the question we posed on the underlining requirement for interacting with the context menu, but if you now had the chance to review our part 3 video and can see what we were asking then is there some other option you can suggest to accomplish the same/similar?



I don't think you understand. I installed the program and used it instantly. Sure, it doesn't "cater" to those needs, but who even has those needs? You have a 3 part video JUST to show how to use the tool. And that video you linked is 14 minutes long.


Your program looks ugly, is far from intuitive or easy to use, and just plain isn't that useful. No one wants to do half the things you think they do, and certainly not if they have to use that application.


I may seem like I'm demeaning you, but it's for the best. Knowing your flaws is where you should start so you can better it - which you've not done. The program I showed you does all anyone would really want. Your program would serve a select few who would never even find it because your company isn't known at all. In the end, editing the registry manually is still a better option.
@zapshe:
Sure, it doesn't "cater" to those needs, but who even has those needs?


So you finally agree that our solution does address a range of issues/needs that other apps currently do not but you still begrudge us by claiming that this functionality might only be required by a very small group of people.

Ironically however, we find the option you suggested to be not so useful as it appears to be doing nothing more than had you just placed a shortcut of an app you wanted to run straight on your desktop.

Why would someone seriously want to put their app they want to quickly launch as an option in their right click context menu of their menu instead of their desktop itself.
The number of mouse clicks required for getting to the context menu of the desktop is also more than just running a shortcut on the desktop.

I can then understand why people would think that the type of suggestion you propose is not so useful since you could achieve the exact same result faster (ie launch the app) by simply double clicking it on the desktop.

In contrast however, our app's functionality cannot be attained more simply by doing something else.

I challenge you or anyone else to show us how to cater for the type of functionality we are demonstrating in our part 3 video.

This video is regrettably 14 minutes in length because my developer wanted to demonstrate the time required to achieve the same result when NOT using our app and also did not want to rush showing the viewer how to update our app settings file to change its right click menu options.

Since passing an argument from the command line has been a feature of programming since the c programming language until now and given that this feature exist in virtually any descent modern programming language it is logical to deduce that this is a useful feature.

Academic institutes teaching IT still appear to be teaching their students how to write small useful programs that accept input from the command line such as a filename or list of filenames.

In industry my developers have used this feature (and currently still use it) to create components that run independently or part of a much large system.
I would therefore submit that our solution would be an excellent choice for all such individuals in the IT fields.

FYI, we recently approached 2 local schools and demonstrated KtxMnu to 3 computer programming classes (1 grade 11 and 2 grade 12 classes) from these schools and had a very positive experience.

One student thought that this was a natural feature of the operating system (he clearly missed the part where my developer demonstrated the downloading of our utility) and came back querying that he couldn't reproduce what he done at school back at his house or on the computers of his dads business.
Obviously this student wouldn't have tried reproducing what he done at school if he had not found it useful.

The general attitude toward our app from virtually all the other students and teachers seemed very positive and on that basis we don't believe that this is of limited use.

Another example of the usefulness of our app can be deduced from a dialog that took place over 10 years ago between my developer and an associate developer he worked with at a previous company.

My developer gave the other associate a copy of a predecessor of KtxMnu. This predecessor app had the BackupFile option among a few other options. This associate developer told my developer that he was very impressed with this predecessor app and especially liked the BackupFile option.
He claimed after having it for 6 months that BackupFile was most likely that was executed the most on his PC.

This associate found BackupFile to be very handy and useful which implies that KtxMnu has more value to a person like himself as will the option you presented.

Moreover, when one considers that this single tiny and very simple little console app like BackupFile can be that handy and useful, one would have to concur that the countless number of such little apps that can be then created (similar to BackupFile) and conveniently executed from right click context menu via KtxMnu actually makes our solution much more useful than you probably can comprehend right now.
@zapshe:
In the end, editing the registry manually is still a better option.


So if some other junior level programmer came to this site querying how to add their programs to the right click context menu in the way that only our solution currently caters for then you will rather advise them to edit their registry manually.
This would be very dangerous advice to give a novice and would also be very limited as would be realized after watching our part 3 video.
Why would you offer a novice advice that would be so bad just to simply avoid admitting that our solution is the best currently?

If you really believe updating the registry manually to add a program like BackupFile to the right click context menu is the best way to go, then please show us how.
My developer and a few other individuals have tried this for themselves and cannot seem to get it right.
Either this is not possible or is not at all straightforward and simple.

Please show us how to add BackupFile and its associated icon into the right click context menu such that it works the way it is suppose to.
If you are unable to demonstrate how to do what you "claimed" you can do then you've actually done your reputation on this site a dishonor.

I would even go as far as saying that you also bring dishonor to cplusplus.com as you currently appear to be speaking on its behalf.
@zapshe:
Your program looks ugly ...


What is ugly about KtxMnu. It is a dll for crying out loud.
This dll places things on the windows right click context menu which already exist and which we have no control over.

The items (text and bitmaps) it places on the right click menu can all be changed to what you personally want to customize it to.
So please explain exactly what is ugly about KtxMnu?

If you referring to the ini file that it saves its setting in then we can very easily also create a cheap ugly dialog box as your suggestion portrays to manage the settings in this file.
If we were to provide such a front end for simply setting the ini settings in a little nicer way then would you then only agree its not ugly anymore?
spambot wrote:
FYI, we gave Password Locket to a 56 year old secretary and she found it quite intuitive.

Uh, huh. So you say. Without ANY documentation to back up your assertion.

I gave your software to my cat and he coughed up a hairball all over it.
@zapshe:
Your program would serve a select few who would never even find it because your company isn't known at all.


The size of our company does not affect the bottom line which is that our solution solves a wide (BackupFile + countless other such very very useful apps ...) range of issues that none of the other you listed can.

The bottom line is that half a billion windows users world wide can download our solution (KtxMnu) and find it very handy and useful whereas they may seriously not find the suggestion you made that useful, ie they might find it better to simply put a shortcut on the desktop instead of doing through your suggestion context menu editor which just place the item in the right click context menu for the windows desktop (very limited)

Furthermore our app doesn't need to be tweaked for compatibility mode before it works on a different version of windows.

All that any of these half a billion windows users have to do is to verify what I am saying here for themselves and the matter will be completely settled - nobody will be able to take your rant seriously thereafter, especially if you couldn't demonstrate how add the BackupFile program into your right context menu by simply updating your registry manually.javascript:editbox4.editSend()

BTW - some of those top 10 companies from your suggestion also aren't that well known yet you personally found and listed their solutions for us here.

Do you have an issue with our company because we are not an American one but a South African company?
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