I hate u
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I hate when people abbreviate 'you' with 'u'
I hate it. I can't stand it. It drives me crazy. I know it's irrational of me, but it really gets under my skin. It gives me the impression that these people are retarded when I know they generally aren't (I even know some really smart people that do it).
I HATE IT
HATE HATE HATE
Maybe it's because I don't read 'u' as 'you' but more like 'oo'.
your -> ur is another one that irks me. Especially since even if you pronouce the 'u' like 'you' it still is pronounced wrong.
why -> y and to -> 2 are also annoying.
I hate it. I can't stand it. It drives me crazy. I know it's irrational of me, but it really gets under my skin. It gives me the impression that these people are retarded when I know they generally aren't (I even know some really smart people that do it).
I HATE IT
HATE HATE HATE
Maybe it's because I don't read 'u' as 'you' but more like 'oo'.
your -> ur is another one that irks me. Especially since even if you pronouce the 'u' like 'you' it still is pronounced wrong.
why -> y and to -> 2 are also annoying.
It used to bother me. Over time, I've learnt to block out of my mind all but the worst of linguistic abuses. Namely, l33t and text message spelling. I'll tell whoever writes like that to me, regardless of who it is and how long I've known them, how much I hate them and to zork off.
Well, it's anoying.. true.. but I hate something else much more... much much more..
PEOPLE SAYING "LOL"! IN VOICE CHATS! Muuuuuaaaaaaarrrggghhh!!!! *becoming big and green*
;-)
Ciao, Imi.
PEOPLE SAYING "LOL"! IN VOICE CHATS! Muuuuuaaaaaaarrrggghhh!!!! *becoming big and green*
;-)
Ciao, Imi.
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...It doesn't bug me at all. It DOES, however, bug me when they can no longer use proper grammar. I remember proof reading a fellow classmates essay (I'm a senior in high school) and seeing short notations ALL OVER the place. It was embarrassing and I gave the job back to my teacher since I couldn't look at him with straight face to explain what he did wrong.
I myself use it. I think it's fun :D
I myself use it. I think it's fun :D
0MG U PPL R S0 UPT1T3 Y CNT U J5T B CALM?!?!??!?!?!11110ne
Just kidding. It truly takes effort to write that badly. It's not even categorizable because it doesn't fit into any known set of net quasi-languages. (It's not l33t or chat or even text-message but some strange combination thereof that I created on the spot.)
Although it is annoying to read stuff like "can u help me", I can live with it. It's silly and perhaps it's juvenile in a forum (in chat I can live with it) but I'm above it, and that is enough for me.
Is it enough for u?
(Kidding again. I crack me up.)
Just kidding. It truly takes effort to write that badly. It's not even categorizable because it doesn't fit into any known set of net quasi-languages. (It's not l33t or chat or even text-message but some strange combination thereof that I created on the spot.)
Although it is annoying to read stuff like "can u help me", I can live with it. It's silly and perhaps it's juvenile in a forum (in chat I can live with it) but I'm above it, and that is enough for me.
Is it enough for u?
(Kidding again. I crack me up.)
I HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE YOU! </FF:Dissidia reference>
I find people who use those kinds of abbreviations are usually less mature than people who don't. I don't get too annoyed by it, but if they start using numbers instead of letters then that is where I don't bother to read it.
I find people who use those kinds of abbreviations are usually less mature than people who don't. I don't get too annoyed by it, but if they start using numbers instead of letters then that is where I don't bother to read it.
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I consider my self relatively mature and I use them :/
I don't think you can make a judgment based on how someone types something over the internet. Maybe on what they're saying in their message but surely not how that message is typed.
I don't think you can make a judgment based on how someone types something over the internet. Maybe on what they're saying in their message but surely not how that message is typed.
| I don't think you can make a judgment based on how someone types something over the internet. |
I always thought, people would do this, because they are just too lazy or too hasty to write it out full. But i guess sometimes it gets cool for kids, does it?
I don't know, it doesn't bother me, but i hope im not doing so. I have too much problem using the language as it is. Normally I can't simplify words in fear to make everything not understandable.
There are enough misunderstandings even without these shortcuts.
Maikel
I don't know, it doesn't bother me, but i hope im not doing so. I have too much problem using the language as it is. Normally I can't simplify words in fear to make everything not understandable.
There are enough misunderstandings even without these shortcuts.
Maikel
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helios, the reality of reading someones way of thinking through how they write doesn't exist. I'm a clean person but my writing on paper looks like shit for many reasons. Maybe that person didn't have a good education? Maybe that person is simply lazy? Maybe that person is this or that, or maybe that?
The main reason why people started writing like that was to shorten the amount of typing needed on a cell phone. They then became lazy and started writing in short notation on everything. Then they became retarded and put that on their college essays. The end.
The main reason why people started writing like that was to shorten the amount of typing needed on a cell phone. They then became lazy and started writing in short notation on everything. Then they became retarded and put that on their college essays. The end.
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I think helios is right it would be very annoying if someone constantly typed like this how are you supposed to know where to put emphasis and where to pause and how are you supposed to know the sentence structure also if you read this whole sentence without stopping you'll die of asphyxiation anyway that's enough of a demonstration I think I've made my point clear.
Where it's just a form of shorthand to reduce typing time, it doesn't really bother me. If it still fully conveys the persons thoughts without burdening the reader with any obscure references, then I just don't have any issues with it. I certainly wouldn't expect to find that kind of writing in any formal or professional context, but for personal correspondence it's fine.
L33T speak is another thing entirely, where the goal isn't to reduce the amount of typing required (in fact, in many cases it increase the typing required, for example using \/\/ instead of W), but to provide intentionally bizarre alternate representations of the text. That does annoy me.
L33T speak is another thing entirely, where the goal isn't to reduce the amount of typing required (in fact, in many cases it increase the typing required, for example using \/\/ instead of W), but to provide intentionally bizarre alternate representations of the text. That does annoy me.
| I'm a clean person but my writing on paper looks like shit for many reasons. |
| They then became lazy and started writing in short notation on everything. Then they became retarded and put that on their college essays. |
It's no coincidence that most programmers write in a very structured style, with a lot of punctuation and rarely forgetting to match a parenthesis.
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| The way you write, the way you act, the way you keep your desk, your shelves, your room. |
My handwriting is absolutely horrible. Even I sometimes can't read it.
As for how I keep my room... I don't. I just let it fester. Contrastingly, when I'm on a computer, everything is organised with a logical directory structure, especially compared to most other people I know. They save all their files as "Doc1" or "untitled" or whatever the default filename is, and everything goes in one directory. I've even noticed that people have duplicated files in several locations (I'm not even making this up; I once found the same 4 GiB of pictures from my mum's camera that I helped her upload in about four places, so a total of 12 GiB was wasted. That's not that much in the context of a 600 GiB disk, but I'm very paranoid about disk space... I tend to feel very satisfied when disk cleanup utilities report that they can save me all of 30 MiB). I'm very much more organised on a computer than in real life.
That's exactly my point. You can't expect someone who's too lazy to write properly to not be too lazy to think properly. The way you think is imprinted on everything you do. The way you write, the way you act, the way you keep your desk, your shelves, your room. Everything. |
I really do not understand. Under some circumstances I think it is really usefull to use shorter versions of words (sorry for my english). For example, in Math. we sometimes say diff.able instead of differentiable. They are really many many things we write in shorter terms (nearly everything), and really: Mathematicans usally do think A LOT! It is just convenience. (for every shitty small property on an abstract object we need a new name for the object. the names become longer and longer and in the end we use abbreviations (HA! i just googled the word).)
Do you bother if someone say sth. instead of something? Me not. I think everything have to be seen in the spoken/written context.
Maikel
It's convenient, but this is a discussion environment. You aren't scrawling something on a chalkboard or taking notes. You're discussing with other people, and when the teacher scrawls "diffable" on the board, he's talking to you so you know he means "differentiable". (If he isn't, you should consider the skills of your teacher.) You can't do that on a forum. If you can't type out the whole thing, then what are you doing typing in the first place?
Right. There's a big difference between communicating with yourself and with others. It's not just a matter of whether it's understandable. Sure, I know that "sth." means "something", and if you misspelled half the words in a post, abbreviated the other half, and a third overlapping half was ungrammatical, I could probably understand the general idea you're trying to convey, but such a text would tell me that you don't respect the reader enough to at the very least spell-check what you wrote, and that in consequence I should not care enough to reply.
And then there's jargon, which has its own rules in every field, but whether mathematicians usually abbreviate certain words is irrelevant when you're talking to non-mathematicians. For example, "i18n" is only meaningful in the context of software development. If you try to pull that anywhere else you'll sound like a prick because people will think you're only using jargon to be asked what it means.
To summarize: jargon in context saves time; jargon out of context is annoying.
And then there's jargon, which has its own rules in every field, but whether mathematicians usually abbreviate certain words is irrelevant when you're talking to non-mathematicians. For example, "i18n" is only meaningful in the context of software development. If you try to pull that anywhere else you'll sound like a prick because people will think you're only using jargon to be asked what it means.
To summarize: jargon in context saves time; jargon out of context is annoying.
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