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Jan 21, 2010 at 11:28pm
Anything other than HTML+CSS is time wasting junk
Simplicity is the best graphic design
Jan 22, 2010 at 1:23am
Perhaps, but the end user enjoys flashy graphics and animations, combined withe ease of use and no lag you have a good product, and happy users.
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Jan 22, 2010 at 1:24am
No lag... if you can pull that off I've got a million dollars waiting for you, in the same vault with the million for the O(n)-complexity sorting algorithm.
Jan 22, 2010 at 1:26am
How old is your computer?
Jan 22, 2010 at 2:04am
Sounds like a disagreement between both parties on how much lag is "no" lag.
And I don't think those two things are anywhere near the same level of difficulty, tummychow.
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Jan 22, 2010 at 2:29am
It's not that my computer is old. It's just that too much flash causes lag. Period.
Too much of anything causes lag.
And you're right, the O(n) should be about a billion.
Anybody laying claim to that?
Jan 22, 2010 at 11:55am
the end user enjoys flashy graphics and animations
I am an end user and I don't like them. I hate flashy graphics in a web page. I want good contents, not distracting colors
Jan 22, 2010 at 1:02pm
Anything other than HTML+CSS is time wasting junk
Simplicity is the best graphic design

Well, most browsers also support Javascript natively. There's also PHP, ASP, Python, Perl, etc.

I am an end user and I don't like them. I hate flashy graphics in a web page. I want good contents, not distracting colors

So do I. And another thing that REALLY annoys me is custom cursors, custom scrollbars, etc.

Perhaps, but the end user enjoys flashy graphics and animations, combined withe ease of use and no lag you have a good product, and happy users.

I'm also an end-user, and I also don't like them.

no lag

Lag is caused by out-of-order packets sent in e.g. online games that use UDP instead of a TCP/IP stream to send data because it's faster. Unless you're referring to latency...
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:05pm
Well we are programmers, talk to your non-programmer half-decent computer-using friends.
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:16pm
I have done, trust me. In fact, I'm the only programmer I know in real life. All the smart ones (and some of the less-smart ones) agree, flash is for embedded videos, games and occasional effects. Not for making whole pages in, or embedding large animations.
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:24pm
I still dis-agree.
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:31pm
chrisname + 1

DrChill maybe have a very fast computer and internet connection, that's why..
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:33pm
Look at a neat and simple page like this, or the Google index page (look at it, seriously, it's a text box, some buttons, some links, a single image and a few lines (occasionally) of text. And it's the most visited page on the 'net. Doesn't that tell you something?) and tell me that the simple, clear, well-thought out and yet still somewhat aesthetically-pleasing design isn't as good as something like this: http://raidmax.com/
Admittedly, I like that website (it's like flash done... well, not "right", because flash can't be done right, but "almost right"). But it takes far too long to load.

I have a fast computer, and a 2 Mib (that's Mebibit, not Mebibyte) connection.
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Jan 22, 2010 at 9:35pm
Hold on a second. I have a decent computer and a fast connection, but I still think Flash and all the rest of that Web 2.0 crap is usually unnecessary and annoying.
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:37pm
I have 2 1/2 gigabytes of RAM (DDR2) and it is on a laptop(although I plan on getting another gigabyte later). Although my laptop is a media laptop.
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:38pm
i hate seeing obama on flash ads!
Jan 22, 2010 at 9:59pm
I have 2 1/2 gigabytes of RAM (DDR2)

Hah! I have 2 GiB of RAM (DDR3) at 1333MHz. And that's before I overclock it.

I just don't have a motherboard to put it in. In fact, by the time I've gathered enough money for one, most of the parts will be almost out of warranty and might not even work. They should work for years, but who knows what goes on inside those heatspreaders...

I have Dual Data Rate 3, not Dual Data Rate 2, Dual Data Rate 3. Ha, ha, ha, ha. (guess who that is correctly, and I'll give you a cookie. Hints:
1. "I aint gonna let these goddamn vampires beat me"
2. A modification made by Gary, synonym for a stupid person, something you store things in (often made of card board) and the number five.

Make a sentence out of the second hint, youtube search the resultant sentence, and listen for hint 1 in the video you find. The character who is quoted attacks the answer to this question.

If you can do that, you get a cookie.)
Last edited on Jan 22, 2010 at 10:14pm
Jan 22, 2010 at 11:00pm
I hate right clicking in flash :@
Jan 22, 2010 at 11:03pm
Oh man, yeah! Because if you try to uncheck "play" it doesn't work! So you have to have this crappy flash animation draining your CPU's resources! In Linux, flash takes up an obscene amount of CPU usage (because adobe couldn't be bothered to make a decent flash plugin, no doubt). But I can't turn the damn thing off, so I'm sitting there with 30% of CPU time going to firefox alone.
Jan 22, 2010 at 11:13pm
If you're using firefox there must be extensions to block flash controls. You can get something like adblock. That can block nearly anything.
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