The "Success" Game

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Figuring a lot of the people
here in the forum (including
myself) are interested as much
in succeeding to the fullest in
life as they are with programming,
I think it'd be nice to play this game
where each poster provides at least one
link of good information about success,
gaining wealth, living life to the fullest
etc. etc. whatever you can get your hands on.

I think this would really help everyone with
getting as far as they can with what they want
to do and would be nice to increase community
involvement in other peoples' lives for the better.

What do you all say?


I'll begin.

Keys to Success video, from a multi-millionaire who I personally follow and take many notes from, very wise man Eben Pagan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyXSaZATMvM&feature=related

"Think and Grow Rich" by Napolean Hill; free book that emphasizes the mindset required to obtain wealth in any shape or form. This book is easily worth
over $100,000 with all the research conducted to make it.

http://www.selfstartersweeklytips.com/tagr.htm
The GNU project makes better software than companies that make proprietary software.

I'd like to contribute to GNU, but all they really need is bugfixing now.

What they should do is put a news ticker thing up with a list of what they need and what hasn't been debugged yet.


Anyway GNU/Linux is, imo, the biggest software achievement so far. Perhaps next to TCP/IP, which I think is free.
Linux systems are outdated. We're going multiprocessor, porhaps even masively, and one can expect a pice of code to sustain changes that are happening in this industry only for so long!


BTW: TCP/IP is a suite of protocols, and are implemented using difrent code on various OS.


As for the original post:

Human body is amazing. Try to use it in its fullest.
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So?
I'll use Linux anyway. I find GNU/Linux a joy to run. Using windows is like swimming with a submarine tied to your arms. 'Go away, Ringo! I don't want to buy your albums!'

I got fed up with windows because it was literally like wearing shackles. Every little thing I want to do its 'Are you sure?', 'Cancel or Allow', 'brb, updating. Take a bath, read a book and make a sandwhich. This shit's gonna take a while'

So I turned UAC, windows defender (more like windows pretender amirite?) and auto update off, thus defeating the purpose of having them, but whatever. Then whenever I logged in, all these warnings popped up. I looked for a way to turn the warn level down, and I ended up in the untidy mess they call 'The Holy Windows Registry'. Anyway, I managed to get some of the warnings to go away, but not many.

Don't even get me started on device 'drivers' (more like user-up-the-wall drivers)

Then I switched to Linux and I saw that it was good. So I said 'Let it make sense', and it did.

The end.
I realy didnt want to finish hijacking this thread, but since its not active, a bump is in order...

There you go, comparing it to Windows. You can completly shut down the warnings on vista, tho I hear that they've changed that in w7. You wont find more device-friendly (And I'm talking in general, not mac - I work with everything apple - way) operating system out there. Auto update never did me any harm. Visuals are good, UI is good, dev documentation is great, and, best of all - the sole reason why I'm not even thinking of going linux programming - it has users. Not a few, but a bunch.

It is true that you can do everything you can do on win on lin too, but, from what I know, everything that can be done on lin can also be done on win. As for the open sourced, free programs - Most of them are for windows too.

What do you use your linux for? Be honest. Not what you tried once, What do you do on it on daily bases. I'm quite sure you're not some pro hax0r who knows how to benefit from its structure. I'm quite sure you're not making pro video editing and rendering on it because its free. I'm sure you're using an distro with all the fancy things that you dont really need. I'm sure you only browse the web and chat on facebook. I'm sure you dual boot windows if its your main computer.


About the thread...
...develop for the people.


Gregor out.
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The end

for windows? Remember: reinstallation will fix EVERYTHING!
Oh and i tried linux for few times (i got suse linux 10 dvd when i bought my pc) but because of my hyper-threading enabled CPU, linux was crashing every 10 minutes...
IMHO Linux is more customizable than Windows, you can do whatever you want with it.
Programs and libraries are easier to install on Linux than on Windows.
KDE and GNOME desktop environments look better than Windows' and they allow better window management.
Furthermore, in my experience I had Windows crashing more often than Linux.

Why should someone buy Windows while you have lots of Linux distroes for free?
The difficult thing of Linux is finding the best distro

There is no best distro.

Mint, Ubuntu, etc, are good for noobs. Backtrack is for penetration testers.

I use Ubuntu and sometimes play around with backtrack.

Yes, I dual boot windows. Why? Because I share the computer with other people.

What do I use it for? Fun and freedom. I do mostly web browsing and programming (python and C/C++), but I just love how I can do whatever I want. The windows console has like 5 commands, which are majorly useless. Bash has loads more. If, for example, I want to know what is in any folder, I could type ls /home/myfolder, regardless of the current directory. In windows you have to cd there before typing dir and then cd back to wherd I was. If I want to install a package, I type apt-get install myPackage. Its downloaded, installed and configured automatically.

Then there's shell script. Incomparable to batch.

KDE and Gnome are nicer to look at and less bloated than windows. Not to mention that microsoft usually steal things from them.

And don't get me started on apple.
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Arguments based on inexperience are really not worth making, they only give fuel to your opponent to discredit your whole argument by pointing out one or two errors.

There is no best operating system, they all have their flaws. I have had Linux distributions that have spent more time panicking than a claustrophobic in a cupboard, and Windows systems that have been as solid as the rock of Gibraltar.

There is no valid way to argue that one OS is better than another, only that you, with your experience, prefer one over another.
I never said Linux was better. I think it is, but I have used windows without issues. XP was good. Vista and 7 are like running in a full body cast. I just can't stand using vista anymore. I only got things like BSoDs when I messed around. I did something with scanf when I didn't know how to use it which caused a core dump. It was pretty funny.

I had XP SP3 and it didn't crash once. If I ever went back to windows, I'd use xp. Vista is just too... 'secure'. Even though I never had malware on xp, whereas on vista I was almost to the point of bit torrenting software to keep the damn thing clean.
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All software sucks. All hardware sucks. Use the one that hurts the least.
That's a somewhat unusual way to look at it. Akin to something like 'Democracy is the worst system of governmemt... Except for all the others.'
Which I think was something Winston Churchill said.

That's definately an interesting viewpoint, though. I quite like it.
'I hate everything. I use x because I hate y more'.
It's supposed to emphasize that whatever reasons someone has to use a system are entirely subjective, and that what works for someone or in some situation, doesn't necessarily work everywhere. In this sense, it's a sort of "live and let live" applied to computer systems.
There's also a tinge of "the only reason you should use anything is because it works for you". There's no such thing as a perfect system, so just pick one you're comfortable with. Trying different things never hurts, though.

I can't remember the original source of the phrase, though. If you Google "All software sucks. All hardware sucks. Use" (with quotes) the only result is the last time I used the phrase here.
Ever the wise man.
Hear him!
There you go chris - You dont like vista. Ok, but thats far from your oppinion in the second post - you were praising linux.

Tell me helios, how can one know the hardware and software if they havent tried them? The first thing people try is a variant of windows. They like it. They stop searching. This proves that many just dont care.
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Trying different things never hurts, though.


They like it. They stop searching. This proves that many just dont care.
That's also fine. Not everyone is a programmer. Not everyone plays with the computer. If you arrive at your probable point of less hurt in your first try, there isn't much use in searching more.
No, Gregor, I haven't changed my opinion.

I didn't say Linux was better, but I see it as being much better.

I liked xp when I used it. I never had any issues with it. But then my dad in his infinite wisdom bought an OEM PC with vista preinstalled. And I hate it.
So now I use Linux.

I think xp was good for windows but ultimately that windows sucks.

Whew.

And to fight off any 'but that's just your opinion!' arguments - of course it is, its me typing it!
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I'd like to add that I felt fine with Windows before trying other operating systems.
Now, any time I hear of some OS I didn't know before I look fore more info now to see if it could be worth trying.
Most people use Windows because they don't even know that there are alternatives.
And Linux, BSD etc. may work as good as Windows, but they are also free. This makes them better than Windows
Very nice argument, and a good point. For the time being its ok to use windows.
I don't usually respond to these kinds of threads, but Gregor, two things you said merit a response:

Linux systems are outdated. We're going multiprocessor, porhaps even masively, and one can expect a pice of code to sustain changes that are happening in this industry only for so long!


What is your proof/supporting evidence? Linux runs many servers on the web these days, many of which are multicore.


...The first thing people try is a variant of windows. They like it. They stop searching. This proves that many just dont care.


No, have to disagree. Unless you are building your own PC or buying a Mac, the PC you are getting already comes preinstalled with Windows. For many people, that's just fine because it does what they need. Maybe
they don't know other OSes exist (many people I know are this way). Maybe status quo is better for them than
going through the pains of installing a new OS and installing new software to replace Outlook, Office, IE, etc
because those applications already do what they need. Maybe if they used app X on Linux instead of the counterpart Windows app, they would find app X better. Or maybe not.

However, one cannot really compare fairly OSes by comparing what applications run on them. The OS is a hardware manager, a memory manager, a scheduler, etc. OSes should be compared using those criteria,
not by the applications that run on them.

You are right, Gregor, in one thing though: although I use Linux, I do dual boot Windows for two reasons:
1) variety of photo-editing packages available on windows, and 2) my wife knows just enough to be able
to use the windows apps she is familiar with.

Windows obviously does have better hardware support than Linux because anyone developing hardware
must develop windows drivers since the majority of PCs have windows on them. Linux drivers tend to lag
behind, but usually if the hardware is out there, someone has written or is writing a driver for it. But Linux
has one thing that Windows never will have -- Linux is free.


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