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Are you serious? Jesus Christ, a bed time story.
I'm sure you need facts but facts i cannot give because God defies science which makes Him impossible which is what makes Him God.
I'm sure you need facts but facts i cannot give because God defies science which makes Him impossible which is what makes Him God.
| Please read it all, it's not to practice xcism. |
So what they are to do is practice Christianity?
Is this what you meant?
| We lost the ability to see God, face-to-face as well as other things and that access. |
So what happens when we finally do meat species from other worlds - or are you claiming that will never ever happen?
If you do claim that will never ever happen then how will you respond if it finally does. Will you claim you misinterpreted bible and still continue believing - just changing what you initially claimed as true?
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| Are you serious? Jesus Christ, a bed time story. I'm sure you need facts but facts i cannot give because God defies science which makes Him impossible which is what makes Him God. |
| As i remember, a person was said to not exist because she converted to christianity from atheism. |
| This is something you have to be willing to do, it's not something that can be forced. I can hope that you find the willingness. |
| Are you serious? Jesus Christ, a bed time story. |
| We lost the ability to see God, face-to-face as well as other things and that access. |
The story of Genesis doesn't say anything about us not being able to visit other worlds as a result of our sin. Your blanket statement about losing access to other things is flawed due to the following reason:
If we had this argument before man invented the aeroplane you may have claimed that according to the Genesis story we will never be able to fly.
However, from history we know that we can now fly, so history may prevail where we overcome our current inabilities to not be able to visit other worlds.
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Jesus Christ said let Him into your life as your personal Lord and Saviour. Let Him in and you will see the proof i see. Experience is the best teacher.
@sik: they don't practice anything, God created them for our consumption and that is their purpose. They know that. Read the Bible.
Why do think Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree when it had no fruit?
Read the bible.
@helios: i didn't say you need to believe, i said life is meaningless without God.
@sik: they don't practice anything, God created them for our consumption and that is their purpose. They know that. Read the Bible.
Why do think Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree when it had no fruit?
Read the bible.
@helios: i didn't say you need to believe, i said life is meaningless without God.
| @helios: i didn't say you need to believe, i said life is meaningless without God. |
Jesus F. Christ. I can't believe I need to explain this.
I said
You = Nathan. I was talking to you. You need to believe that.
| @helios: i didn't say you need to believe, i said life is meaningless without God. |
| You just said in the last page that you need to believe in God |
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| I can't believe in something that tells me that all there is is get born, live and die, without any purpose. |
| i was referring to atheism there. Life has no meaning without God |
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O the irony.
| A Rock has no ears so you can keep on talking and try to explain simple things (choice, freedom) but it just won't hear you. |
O the irony.
So in other words Nathan you people are the only ones with a meaning and we should all just kill ourselves?
Do you fully support these quotes Nathan?
What if this happens by accident? Or even worse, what if this happens because someone else attacks me and forces the injury upon me?
Seriously. Even his tenth generation? It's not even your own fault if you are born a bastard... Harsh much? Ridiculous even.
Do you intend to follow this Nathan?
These are all from the laws in Dueteronomy.
| He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. |
What if this happens by accident? Or even worse, what if this happens because someone else attacks me and forces the injury upon me?
| A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. |
Seriously. Even his tenth generation? It's not even your own fault if you are born a bastard... Harsh much? Ridiculous even.
| When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken. |
Do you intend to follow this Nathan?
These are all from the laws in Dueteronomy.
| God created them for our consumption and that is their purpose. They know that. Read the Bible. |
I intend to prove that at least one of these statements is true:
a) God lied.
b) God intended for us to sin.
c) God's designs make no sense.
In Genesis, God says not to eat from the tree, or else the first human male and female will die. This can be interpreted in two ways: either God lied, or humanity started out immortal. If God lied, then God lied.
If humanity started out immortal, then there's no point to animal and plant life. Humanity doesn't need to eat. Humanity also doesn't need to procreate, because its only two specimens will never die. The fact that we have the necessary biological systems to metabolize nutrients and reproduce implies that either God added useless features to our bodies, or God expected us to die at some point. If God added useless features, then his designs make no sense.
If God expected us to die, He must have also expected us to sin, since dying was impossible without sin. Therefore God expected us to sin. Since God's designs make sense, God intended what He expected, and thus He intended for us to sin.
QED.
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God didn't lie. He created us in HIS image and LIKENESS. Jesus proves this.
In the old testament, Moses said an eye for an eye but Jesus shows there is another way. He teaches we have fallen short of the glory of God. He said if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
We are created in the LIKENESS and IMAGE of God. We have the same physical features of God. His plan was for man to enjoy the goodness of the world. That's what differentiates us from other beings. We are like God. He gave us the choice and freewill to choose between all the things in the world. Man sinned against God. Man downgraded himself, man was like God but failed to act like God against temptation by the serpent. Man was in the likeness of God. Man had the power over everything till they failed to honour what they were. They failed to overcome Lucifer who compared himself to God but yet was defeated by arch angel Michael. Man failed.
In the old testament, Moses said an eye for an eye but Jesus shows there is another way. He teaches we have fallen short of the glory of God. He said if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
We are created in the LIKENESS and IMAGE of God. We have the same physical features of God. His plan was for man to enjoy the goodness of the world. That's what differentiates us from other beings. We are like God. He gave us the choice and freewill to choose between all the things in the world. Man sinned against God. Man downgraded himself, man was like God but failed to act like God against temptation by the serpent. Man was in the likeness of God. Man had the power over everything till they failed to honour what they were. They failed to overcome Lucifer who compared himself to God but yet was defeated by arch angel Michael. Man failed.
If he created us in his image then what is every [edit]other[/edit] past/present/future species? Are the experiments?
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So I had to work and in the 2-3 hours I was gone this topic has added 2 more pages.
I'm not going to read all of it.... so I'm just going to address some things that stood out.
No.. I am looking for answers to my 3 questions that I thought I explained pretty clearly, but I'll repeat for your sake:
1) Where in the Bible does Jesus say non-believers are foolish?
2) Where in the Bible does Jesus say if you are not of God, you are of Satan?
3) Why was it necessary for Jesus to die in order for our sins to absolve? Why couldn't God just forgive us without having to sacrifice his son?
This further confuses me. I thought Jesus was the son of God. I thought God was immortal and forever.... and didn't Jesus die?
Why do we call him Jesus if he's God? Why do we call God God if he's really Jesus?
None of this really answers my above 3 questions... but it does add a 4th question. Though I'm not as interested in this question right now, so let's stick to answering my previous 3 questions.
That's not what I'm attempting. I'm looking for answers to 3 very specific questions that I've asked at least four times now. Your replies keep dodging the question and/or bringing up completely unrelated points. I'm beginning to think you yourself do not know the answer to them.
Thank you! This answers my #2 question. I will read more about this when I get home from work.
I'm not going to read all of it.... so I'm just going to address some things that stood out.
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| What are you looking for? Fact that God exists? A text sent to me by God? |
No.. I am looking for answers to my 3 questions that I thought I explained pretty clearly, but I'll repeat for your sake:
1) Where in the Bible does Jesus say non-believers are foolish?
2) Where in the Bible does Jesus say if you are not of God, you are of Satan?
3) Why was it necessary for Jesus to die in order for our sins to absolve? Why couldn't God just forgive us without having to sacrifice his son?
| Know one thing, Christ is God, God is Christ. |
This further confuses me. I thought Jesus was the son of God. I thought God was immortal and forever.... and didn't Jesus die?
Why do we call him Jesus if he's God? Why do we call God God if he's really Jesus?
None of this really answers my above 3 questions... but it does add a 4th question. Though I'm not as interested in this question right now, so let's stick to answering my previous 3 questions.
| If you attempting to find fact that God exists, you are attempting to do what I cannot do, |
That's not what I'm attempting. I'm looking for answers to 3 very specific questions that I've asked at least four times now. Your replies keep dodging the question and/or bringing up completely unrelated points. I'm beginning to think you yourself do not know the answer to them.
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| Mathew 12:30 Anyone who isn't with me opposes me, and anyone who isn't working with me is actually working against me. |
Thank you! This answers my #2 question. I will read more about this when I get home from work.