So we Live in a Black Hole...

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Aug 28, 2013 at 11:03pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Well, I've been reading a few interesting theories on the creation of our universe, and creation from a black hole is very, very interesting.

Basically, our universe is a black hole that is inside of another universe. Our universe inherits the laws of the universe before, and due to the conditions of the black hole, creates a few itself. Kinda like polymorphism in C++.

So, what is your stance on this?
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:16pm
I don't agree. From what I know a black "hole" is really a huge pile of matter, crushing itself under the force of gravity. It's basically like a very massive planet (if you don't want to call it a dark star).

I do not understand how a Universe could reside within a black "hole" or how the black "hole" could provide passage to an alternate universe. It's just a pile of matter, drawing ever more matter to it.

Maybe I am wrong in my reasoning? Maybe I am ignorant of some facts?
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Aug 28, 2013 at 11:21pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
A pretty good arcticle. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/17/every-black-hole-contains-new-universe/

I've read some other articles but unfortunately I recently erased all history on Firefox.
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:22pm
closed account (jwkNwA7f)
I agree with Catfish4. It does sound interesting, but I really don't think that is true. It doesn't make sense to me.
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:24pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Why is our universe always expanding then? Maybe our "black hole" is absorbing matter from our parent universe, and the force of the matter being added pushes the universe outwards.

We may be a small black hole, which from I read are much more violent than larger ones.
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Aug 28, 2013 at 11:27pm
closed account (jwkNwA7f)
Wouldn't it just go on anyway? If it has a stopping point, wouldn't there have be something on the other side?
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:30pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Hm.

Well our "universe" could be inside a black hole that's inside another universe inside a black hole, and that would go on. We'd keep getting matter through that process until the mother of all universes runs out I guess. Maybe a "creator" is creating that matter.

(No religion pl0x)
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:40pm
closed account (jwkNwA7f)
I guess. It makes more sense than all the s*** about the big bang theory. The big bang theory just plain doesn't make sense. How would a peace of dust make humans, animals, etc.. And, where would the dust come from? idk...
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:41pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
I know. But I still would like some more input on this.
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:46pm
the force of the matter being added pushes the universe outwards
Which makes as much sense as trying to achieve anti-gravity by building the heaviest object possible.
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:54pm
closed account (jwkNwA7f)
@helios Well, yeah.
Aug 28, 2013 at 11:55pm
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Which makes as much sense as trying to achieve anti-gravity by building the heaviest object possible.
I know this isn't serious, but if the mass is large enough it doesn't always follow the laws of gravity.
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:02am
closed account (1yR4jE8b)
foxnews


Nothing to see here, move along.

It makes more sense than all the s*** about the big bang theory. [...] How would a peace of dust make humans, animals, etc.. And, where would the dust come from?


Just because you don't understand the science, doesn't mean it can't be true. It just means you need to expand your knowledge. Besides the Big Bang Theory doesn't have anything to say about the origin of life, only the origin of the Universe.

If you want to learn about the origin of life, read about the different hypotheses regarding Abiogenesis as well as the Miller-Urey experiements that gives us a foundation of how organic matter emerged from non-organic matter. It isn't a completely solved problem, but we are actively working on it and getting closer every day.

Once that organic matter emerged, evolution took it's course: another completely different theory.


And, where would the dust come from?


The Big Bang occured 13.7 billion years ago, after that the Universe was much too hot for stars to form. As the Universe expanded, space began to cool and gravity brought Hydrogen, Helium and a few trace elements that were created during the intense energy release of the Big Bang to create the first starts.

Those early stars lived short violent lives, probably about a million years or so. As they grew larger, and hotter they fused new elements in their cores which scattered across the universe when the stars go supernova (basically, they explode). Essentially all matter that exists originated from these exploding stars, all connected to each other through the laws of physics. We are all stardust.

Maybe a "creator" is creating that matter.


Then what created the creator?
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Aug 29, 2013 at 12:04am
if the mass is large enough it doesn't always follow the laws of gravity
For example?
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:05am
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Then what created the creator?
majik

A better question is what created the universe's initial mass.
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:06am
closed account (1yR4jE8b)
Maybe it always existed?
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:07am
closed account (N36fSL3A)
Then you could say thing same about God/The creator.
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:13am
closed account (1yR4jE8b)
Why not save a step? Why do we have to insert an eternal space wizard, where there is no evidence to suggest that one exists?
Aug 29, 2013 at 12:15am
closed account (jwkNwA7f)
Then you could say thing same about God/The creator.

I was just thinking that too, but Lumpkin beat me to it.

@darkestfright Still think the big bang theory is not true. (never going to convince me)
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Aug 29, 2013 at 12:16am
closed account (1yR4jE8b)
never going to convince me


Why not?
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