c++ n00b woes
hello as a newbie to C++ I was wondering and I know this gets debated alot what the big war between C++ and c is all about.
I have been googling this for ages and alot of the answers seem to be coming from non C++ programmers or programmers who migrated to c after deciding C++ was no good for them.
When I was at school I tried to learn C++ and found it very difficult. Now that im a little older I find it alot eaiser to understand.
I was reading through some very old threads wheras big names like Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman criticize C++ and that seems to be talked alot about by blowhards everywhere.
I cant talk cos Im not a programmer but this is confusing to me how people say things like C++ isn't very portable across systems etc.
I also understand that c is used for specific reasons but now that i've decided that c++ is what I want to learn I dont get what major programs someone would write in C++.
Also people have said that C++ is not a true object orientated language and its just a object based language. What does that even mean cos the books that I have on C++ all say that it is a object orientated language.....
ditto I dont know what the F*** im on about but im trying to learn.
What will make me a good C++ programmer and what books would anyone here recommend.
What programs I will write in C++ I do not know and I know that is going to be the hardest thing as a hobbist programmer to figure out, one other question here is what kind of programs CAN I write in C++ that I couldn't write in c and vice versa.
I'm finding C++ very easy to understand at the moment so I wont be changing to another language anytime soon but any help is greatly appreciated.
Understanding why C++ programmers use the language will help my confidence with this massive learning curve as I know no other langauge and dont really plan on learning anything else till after I've learnt C++ although I know I should start maybe with c or something I dont know I just like C++.
I dont just want to learn C++ I want to learn to use it properly so I dont become one of those programmers that just writes junk that cant be properly maintained or ported etc etc, ie I dont want to be a halfway C++ person who writes code that will be useless in 6 months time due to some problem.
so yeah just any books that anyone can recommend.
Also what big software companys use c++ for major worldwide programs and what are those programs.
Thanks heaps for your time of day.
:)
Greetings btw I hope to frequent here alot as I dont see many c++ forums around just dedicated to C++.
I have been googling this for ages and alot of the answers seem to be coming from non C++ programmers or programmers who migrated to c after deciding C++ was no good for them.
When I was at school I tried to learn C++ and found it very difficult. Now that im a little older I find it alot eaiser to understand.
I was reading through some very old threads wheras big names like Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman criticize C++ and that seems to be talked alot about by blowhards everywhere.
I cant talk cos Im not a programmer but this is confusing to me how people say things like C++ isn't very portable across systems etc.
I also understand that c is used for specific reasons but now that i've decided that c++ is what I want to learn I dont get what major programs someone would write in C++.
Also people have said that C++ is not a true object orientated language and its just a object based language. What does that even mean cos the books that I have on C++ all say that it is a object orientated language.....
ditto I dont know what the F*** im on about but im trying to learn.
What will make me a good C++ programmer and what books would anyone here recommend.
What programs I will write in C++ I do not know and I know that is going to be the hardest thing as a hobbist programmer to figure out, one other question here is what kind of programs CAN I write in C++ that I couldn't write in c and vice versa.
I'm finding C++ very easy to understand at the moment so I wont be changing to another language anytime soon but any help is greatly appreciated.
Understanding why C++ programmers use the language will help my confidence with this massive learning curve as I know no other langauge and dont really plan on learning anything else till after I've learnt C++ although I know I should start maybe with c or something I dont know I just like C++.
I dont just want to learn C++ I want to learn to use it properly so I dont become one of those programmers that just writes junk that cant be properly maintained or ported etc etc, ie I dont want to be a halfway C++ person who writes code that will be useless in 6 months time due to some problem.
so yeah just any books that anyone can recommend.
Also what big software companys use c++ for major worldwide programs and what are those programs.
Thanks heaps for your time of day.
:)
Greetings btw I hope to frequent here alot as I dont see many c++ forums around just dedicated to C++.
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| I was wondering and I know this gets debated alot what the big war between C++ and c is all about. |
It's not that big a deal at all. This debate has mostly died off. If anything, C++ vs. Java vs. C# is the "hot topic" right now. And furthermore, stay away from those arguments: nothing good comes out of them.
| C++ isn't very portable across systems etc. |
Depending on how you use it, C++ can be just as portable as C.
| Also people have said that C++ is not a true object orientated language and its just a object based language. What does that even mean cos the books that I have on C++ all say that it is a object orientated language..... |
The only language I've ever heard called "object based" is JavaScript.
When people criticize C++ for not being a true object oriented language what they're getting at is that C++ is not purely Object Oriented (it supports other paradigms, including OOP) like a language like Java is (where everything is part of a class, and everything asides from primitive types is an object).
| What will make me a good C++ programmer and what books would anyone here recommend. |
Books like The C++ Primer, Code Complete (which is not strictly for C++ programmers) and pretty much anything by Andrei Alexandrescu should be a good start (there are many, many more).
| What programs I will write in C++ I do not know and I know that is going to be the hardest thing as a hobbist programmer to figure out, one other question here is what kind of programs CAN I write in C++ that I couldn't write in c and vice versa. |
Honestly, pretty much anything. C++ isn't called a general purpose programming language for nothing: the possibilities are pretty much limitless.
| Understanding why C++ programmers use the language will help my confidence with this massive learning curve as I know no other langauge and dont really plan on learning anything else till after I've learnt C++ although I know I should start maybe with c or something I dont know I just like C++. |
I can't speak for everyone, but I use C++ because it's fast, relatively portable, supports a lot of paradigms and isn't exceedingly difficult to program in (development times aren't too high).
Also, I wouldn't recommend starting with C. It's a difficult first language.
| Also what big software companys use c++ for major worldwide programs and what are those programs. |
Most modern games are made in C++ (so most game companies). Programs like Skype, Microsoft Office (I believe, don't hold me to that) and a hell of a lot more were also made with C++.
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Hi there,
As to your question on books:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list
As to your question on software, another good example is Adobe - they use C++ for programs like Photoshop.
Parts of the windows operating system (and most of the Haiku operating system) are also written in C++, to go even more low level.
On a different note, C++ is also used in writing air plane entertainment systems for instance, to show you how versatile it is.
All the best,
NwN
As to your question on books:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list
As to your question on software, another good example is Adobe - they use C++ for programs like Photoshop.
Parts of the windows operating system (and most of the Haiku operating system) are also written in C++, to go even more low level.
On a different note, C++ is also used in writing air plane entertainment systems for instance, to show you how versatile it is.
All the best,
NwN
I don't know if this is a troll thread... but if it is, you could at least make it a troll thread to the end, by editing it and moving it to the Lounge section, where more people may take part in the discussion.
C++ is a low-level language that tries to support high level paradigms.
And you either understand the implications of that, or go read some more literature until you do.
C++ is a low-level language that tries to support high level paradigms.
And you either understand the implications of that, or go read some more literature until you do.
not a troll thread im a newbie here and i tried to be polite unlike you, you are just rude as
movin on:
thank you NwN
movin on:
thank you NwN
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And this is why I usually disable PM's.
| yeah dont write in my threads ever ok i dont like rude people, ur a troll cos you talk shit aye eat a dick ya loser |
| And this is why I usually disable PM's. yeah dont write in my threads ever ok i dont like rude people, ur a troll cos you talk shit aye eat a dick ya loser |
Lol.
its hard not to pick back at ppl who are generally think the sun shines out of their own butt,
Sorry but.
thank you ascii
Sorry but.
thank you ascii
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| its hard not to pick back at ppl who are generally think the sun shines out of their own butt. Sorry but its true. |
What? I'm now sure this is a troll thread.
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