so new to this its not even funny :0(
hi am studying my but off for a long time now in java and have found it so hard i have a stock of self help books and i can only just creep along but i started doing some c++ tutroials on youtube and i for some reason have picked it up so easily and it just seems to sink in alot quiker
i really am interested in creating web applications
but i really cant stand visual studio and stuff because it lets people pick and drag windows stuff and in my oppinion they neever get the down in didrty code writing part of it to sctually creat the source code for the window itsself
so my question is how do i get started creating just a simple window blank is ok
and i am so condused you creat a program like hello world in c++ with lets say devc++ compiler and you can only open it when in devc++ how do i creat a logo and and attach it to my desktop sounds simple yeah but not to me please help !!!!!!!!!!!!
i really am interested in creating web applications
but i really cant stand visual studio and stuff because it lets people pick and drag windows stuff and in my oppinion they neever get the down in didrty code writing part of it to sctually creat the source code for the window itsself
so my question is how do i get started creating just a simple window blank is ok
and i am so condused you creat a program like hello world in c++ with lets say devc++ compiler and you can only open it when in devc++ how do i creat a logo and and attach it to my desktop sounds simple yeah but not to me please help !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your particular question, just wandering why you rejected Java. It would seem to me that web applications are easier to do in Java than C++. Besides the two languages are not that different and share most concepts, so that if you understand it in C++ you also understand it in Java. I would even go so far as saying that C++ is quite awkward in many respects because you drag along the c-compatibility.
I wouldn't use devC++ I would use if I was you cod::blocks... logo do you mean like an icon or an .exe file were you can run the program with going through devC++ or a compiler?
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Then C++ is wrong language for you. Stick with Java.
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| but i really cant stand visual studio and stuff because it lets people pick and drag windows stuff and in my oppinion they neever get the down in didrty code writing part of it to sctually creat the source code for the window itsself |
That's a ridiculous comment. Real development includes "draging windows stuff" in the IDE to speed up development. The code is then further tweaked. That's not a valid reason to dislike visual studio, just don't use the GUI tools!
sorry guys i just think people can so easily click and drag stuff here and there is really cheating if your wanting to be a true programer and to understand the nity grity part of it how actually to write code for a window every little bit of it buttons and menus and status bars everything then when you can understand that then use visual basic or studio or things
i am very new at this i know and am sorry if i came across as rude but i really need some advise i think as to what would be the best path to take
i would like to develop security programs small ones to protect my whateevers and fun little games that i can attach to my web page that i am still learning to make LOLOLOL
i am very new at this i know and am sorry if i came across as rude but i really need some advise i think as to what would be the best path to take
i would like to develop security programs small ones to protect my whateevers and fun little games that i can attach to my web page that i am still learning to make LOLOLOL
Ya I don't like VS either but if you know the code and you are in a rush to get something done it a ok program, me I would rather code it from the ground up.... but some people need to use it for time. But you are right no skill just by drag stuff.....
Now if I was you and you never used C++ you need to start from the basic this website and cprogramming.com are both really good site to learn from.... if you have the $ get some books.
If you want to make game for like web page i would stick with java. For security I'm going to college for computer security and one of my teacher told me it would help me out a lot if i learn C++, java, and unix.... But i haven't seen an security programs yet...
hope this helps a little bit I'm not the smarts person on this forum just trying to help another programer in need
Now if I was you and you never used C++ you need to start from the basic this website and cprogramming.com are both really good site to learn from.... if you have the $ get some books.
If you want to make game for like web page i would stick with java. For security I'm going to college for computer security and one of my teacher told me it would help me out a lot if i learn C++, java, and unix.... But i haven't seen an security programs yet...
hope this helps a little bit I'm not the smarts person on this forum just trying to help another programer in need
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| i would like to develop security programs small ones to protect my whateevers and fun little games that i can attach to my web page that i am still learning to make LOLOLOL |
That's several years away. Entire teams of people take a few years to churn out a good security program. One person, even making a "small" thing, would probably take eons.
And C++ doesn't embed too well. You're better off with flash or javascript.
If you don't like the way a GUI works, don't use it. The point of the existing GUI is to streamine your efforts in working with stuff like that. You wanna code it yourself, go ahead. Come and find me in 200 years and tell me how it goes.
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| The point of the existing GUI is to streamine your efforts in working with stuff like that. You wanna code it yourself, go ahead. Come and find me in 200 years and tell me how it goes |
true that good point
umm, if you want to do that from scratch you should study the win32 API for windows, and the x-windowing system for linux or unix based systems. Google those, I'm sure you'll find a lot of tutorials relating to it, but that's quite a lot to digest especially being new to C++.
If you're after web development though you could try php, just get WampServer and install it. and place the php files in the www folder of WAMP and you can view them in your browser.
Or you can install apache tomcat and use java servlets and java server pages (JSP) instead. You'll really need to have a good foundation in HTML, CSS, and javascript though because you'll usually have to embed those in your php or JSP. And also study SQL because your website will need to store it's data in a database, MySQL is already in WampServer though so you just install it and you can use it.
Anyways, if you really want to use C++ or C. You can use it in CGI programming to generate your html and stuff for websites. However, the drawback of that is it's very difficult to make it secure. But it's still an option if you're willing to put the time into it and learn.
If you're after web development though you could try php, just get WampServer and install it. and place the php files in the www folder of WAMP and you can view them in your browser.
Or you can install apache tomcat and use java servlets and java server pages (JSP) instead. You'll really need to have a good foundation in HTML, CSS, and javascript though because you'll usually have to embed those in your php or JSP. And also study SQL because your website will need to store it's data in a database, MySQL is already in WampServer though so you just install it and you can use it.
Anyways, if you really want to use C++ or C. You can use it in CGI programming to generate your html and stuff for websites. However, the drawback of that is it's very difficult to make it secure. But it's still an option if you're willing to put the time into it and learn.
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