Becoming programmer after 40 years.

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My first language was Qbasic, then I tried HTML of which I had tried to create a game without JS, how you say? I created a LOT of different links all to different pages which looked like that last but changed the image you clicked on to your character's image (at least the square within reach of you) talk about hard-coding. But I was young.
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sorry hayksk, people had to post their crap about how good they are because they had the luxery of having a computer at such a young age.
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Why Java Matters

Despite our comments on Java as a first or only language, we think that Java has an important role to play in CS instruction. We will mention only two aspects of the language that must be part of the real programmer’s skill set:

1. An understanding of concurrent programming (for which threads provide a basic low-level model).
2. Reflection, namely the understanding that a program can be instrumented to examine its own state and to determine its own behavior in a dynamically changing environment.


I did mention maths based stuff / GUI / and Collections, while gui is not low level the other 2 are :P
People want to skip the low level stuff, it will only lead to their downfall, I wasn't suggesting that so much I was suggesting learning a language where you don't get caught up in the semantics of the language.

meh whatever. They make good points, I think things like point 1. Mathematics requirements in CS programs are shrinking.
Could be more attributed to the fact lots of high school dropout gamers want to become programmers...
Not the use of Java...
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If you notice the thread is about someone asking if they can be a programmer at 40, are you trying to discourage him.
abilify wrote:
If you notice the thread is about someone asking if they can be a programmer at 40, are you trying to discourage him.


Pretty sure the question has already been answered, now we are expanding on that.
Just because you don't value your peers comments doesn't mean others don't.
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peers? They are hardly my peers. Expounding? what do half the posts have to do with the initial question. Have you ever fought in a war? Have you seen people die? Have you every tried to work and live on your own? The question has to do with is it financially a good idea to mak a step like that. Not how good you know cross-platform bullshit. I think its dumb to ask a question like that to a bunch of smart-ass kids.
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How do you close your account?
peers? They are hardly my peers. Expounding? what do half the posts have to do with the initial question. Have you ever fought in a war? Have you seen people die? Have you every tried to work and live on your own? The question has to do with is it financially a good idea to mak a step like that. Not how good you know cross-platform bullshit. I think its dumb to ask a question like that to a bunch of smart-ass kids.

Wait a second, there. What the hell is your problem?

Have you ever fought in a war? Have you seen people die?

I've never fought in a war... but I did see a guy die from a stabbing. Does that count? It was in Camden, London, 2008. I think it was August.

sorry hayksk, people had to post their crap about how good they are because they had the luxery of having a computer at such a young age.

Why are you so bitter about that? Here's a suggestion: shut the fuck up. I'm so sick of people who think that because everything is not the same as it was when they were young, and because everything is easier ("Oh, exams are getting easier," "it's so easy for kids now") and life is easier; well, who the fuck cares? The whole point of technology is to make life easier!

If you hate things getting easier for people, then you hate technology. And if you hate technology, then get the hell off that computer and go live under a rock, where technology can't touch you.

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Edit: I have an addendum to make. It may well be easier to pass exams now, but have you noticed how many people there are with degrees now? I put some thought into it the other day, actually. I don't mean to sound like an arrogant arse, but I think I've figured it out.

1. Lots of people start getting degrees
2. Unemployment goes up because people without degrees can't get jobs
3. Exam boards etc. make exams easier so that people can get degrees to lower unemployment
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Perhaps he's having a difficult time right now or something. I have indeed seen many people die although I have not fought in a war but please note that this has nothing to do with anything nor should it be brought up. Please refrain from looking retarded as the supposed elder here. We are concerned about the well-being of yet another programmer that might join the forums and / or begin coding and simply want to help carve his path to a better programmer and possibly life. You just insulted over 200 people who have helped hundreds of people you arrogant prick. Get off your high horse and act like you have sense, sir. I hope you find the button that closes your account.

As to the topic itself, I believe it should now be closed. Unfortunately, I don't think this will happen so would everyone else please refrain from the topic of abilify's stupidity and irritating remarks and continue with more productive posts.
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The fact that I'm 5 years older than you abilify and yet you call me a smart-ass kid without any knowledge of my age who I am or what I do just goes to show how much growing you still need to do. This is the interwebs get used to it.

Your only pissed off because you thought you were a master and would come here to help people only to find out you don't have a clue, hindering people does not help them, I too think you need to find the close button ASAP before you lead more people astray..
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If you wish to continue this bitch fight, please take it to the Lounge.
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better yet tell me how to close this rediculous account.
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better yet tell me how to close this rediculous account.

If you want to leave, just log out and don't bother coming back.

I'll ask the Admin to remove your account if that is what you want.
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thanks, you guys aren't accredited so your information isn't exactly correct. The only thing your good for is giving answers to people that only use you, because they're too dumb to do it themselves
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Please don't paint us all with the same brush.
hi,
i ma 28 y.o. and Ihave started with programming soon from the zero, I dont have a college degree or sht. like that but i am trying to learn all this confusing C++ things:). So my advise for you is: find a study course for begginners; find somebody to guide you; and there is a lot of information but sometimes is very confusing.
I think if you dont do this things you will loose a lot of time, like me.I am far of programming yet but I dont give up :)
Wish you luck!
thanks, you guys aren't accredited so your information isn't exactly correct. The only thing your good for is giving answers to people that only use you, because they're too dumb to do it themselves


What is it exactly you are accredited with to think you can go and make 120+ useless posts that simply hinder people in less than 24hours ?

I understand you have your heart in the right place, but your just going about this the whole wrong way.
When people tell you to slow down and be careful of the help you give, it usually should not generate a response of "Fine I won't post here anymore!, or cry cry cry.... whatever".

We aren't trying to bully you, you are simply asking for this response and treatment, because it's the same way you have been treating us. You talk about the real world, and in the real world we would get knocked out. Fact is in the real world, if you were an employee or equal, you would get fired telling the boss or an equal to shut the fuck up for no reason...(or worse, beat up daily in the smoking area by your equals). Think about why you are learning programming, if you can't accept that your going to be working with kids much smarter than you perhaps you should seek a new career.

How about you just take some time out and reflect for a couple days, and come back and post in the lounge and we can all hug and make up.
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Good riddance.
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